Cross Theory II

[Colin Roberts]

The police would have every reason to correct this false impression caused by Paul's statement and have Mizen take the stand ...

Now we've gone full-circle.

It wasn't a Police inquiry, it was a Coroner's inquest. Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

The Met had no authority with which to "have Mizen take the stand".

[John Bennett]

Well that depends on which source you use

And it appears PC Mizen said was approached by two men, not one plus another who turned up a bit later.

[Mr Lucky]

Robert Paul also said that Cross/Lechmere walked with him to Old Montague Street.

Well that depends on which source you use

[Mr Lucky]

You haven't got a clue, have you?

Robert Paul had given a statement in Lloyds that claimed that the policeman he spoke too wouldn't go to the scene, but he carried on calling the people up.

Lloyd's claimed that this was on Bucks row. Neil, the beat police man from Bucks row, had already given testimony and had mention nothing of this.

The police would have every reason to correct this false impression caused by Paul's statement and have Mizen take the stand and state that he was the PC that the two men spoke too.

Why this is so contentious I have no idea.

Mizen is the third PC to arrive at the murder scene, so I'll will ask you again, as I haven't a clue, what is the reason for him to be at the inquest?

[John Bennett]

Hi John,

I'm accusing Cross of lying about that.

Robert Paul also said that Cross/Lechmere walked with him to Old Montague Street.

[Bridewell]

Duplicate post. Sorry.

[Bridewell]

Hi John,

I'm accusing Cross of lying about that.

Why would he need to lie about that, and where is the evidence that he did so? 'Accusing' is a strong word to use if you have none.

[Colin Roberts]

I wasn't going to bite, but it's been one of those days.

I don't think Ivanovic would be half as obstinate as this guy here.

[Mr Lucky]

The inquest reports make it quite clear that Lechmere/Cross and Paul left the scene together. Or have I missed something?

Hi John,

I'm accusing Cross of lying about that.

[Rob Clack]

Clearly, he does not!

I wasn't going to bite, but it's been one of those days.

[Colin Roberts]

You haven't got a clue, have you?

Clearly, he does not!

[Rob Clack]

Ok. you tell me why was Mizen at the inquest?

My claim is it's because he is the PC Cross and Paul spoke to, and that's why H Div beat PC Mizen is there, otherwise he wouldn't be. it's as simple as that.

That's not what you said.

This is what you said:

So why did the authorities (who were not expecting Cross) need H Division Mizen at the inquest?
Answer- So that he could give testimony to counter what Paul had said in his Lloyds statement.

That's the point I was trying to make.

You haven't got a clue, have you?

It's no secret that I think Lechmere is a poor suspect (I don't think he even should be on the suspects lists) but at least when I have my little discussions with Ed, he's well read on the subject, even if I don't agree with a lot of what he says.

[John Bennett]

I would rather focus on whether Paul left Charles Lechmere with the body, and whether Charles Lechmere only then used his knife, but...

The inquest reports make it quite clear that Lechmere/Cross and Paul left the scene together. Or have I missed something?

[Colin Roberts]

Welcome to the Cuckoo's Nest.

[Mr Lucky]

The murders of Martha Tabram, Annie Chapman, Alice McKenzie and Francis Coles all took place in H Division and their Inquest took place in the Working Lads Institute so that's not really relevant. Also Mary Ann Nichols body was taken to the Whitechapel Mortuary which was in H Division. As Colin has pointed out, Police Divisions had nothing to do Coroners Inquests.
It is quite obvious why Mizen was at the Inquest and it was nothing to do with what Paul said to Lloyds.

Rob

Ok. you tell me why was Mizen at the inquest?

My claim is it's because he is the PC Cross and Paul spoke to, and that's why H Div beat PC Mizen is there, otherwise he wouldn't be. it's as simple as that.