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  • Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
    In my view, the most logical conclusion from the evidence is that Cross wasn’t investigated. He gave a statement at some point and it was taken at face value.
    Have you ever pondered the question of what were the two days Paul attended the inquest, and when it was he was 'fetched up in the night'? I'm wondering how long it took the police to find and interview him, and which was the day he attended without being reported saying anything...

    M.
    (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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    • Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
      Presumably you just don't know about the earlier reports about two men finding the body.

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      Thanks for posting, Dusty, but is it possible to post a clearer version (as I can hardly read especially the upper part)?
      "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
      Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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      • Originally posted by FrankO View Post
        Thanks for posting, Dusty, but is it possible to post a clearer version (as I can hardly read especially the upper part)?
        Yes, it would be nice to be able to read it, and to know its source. Plus, since ‘reports’ (plural) are mentioned, it would be useful to know the other sources in question.



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        • Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
          Yes, it would be nice to be able to read it, and to know its source. Plus, since ‘reports’ (plural) are mentioned, it would be useful to know the other sources in question.
          Looks to me like an evening paper crammed with all the cack and scuttlebutt they could accumulate before the deadline. The bit about one man staying with the body surely indicates the presence of Rob the Gob somewhere along the chain of Chinese whispers...

          M.
          (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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          • Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

            Looks to me like an evening paper crammed with all the cack and scuttlebutt they could accumulate before the deadline. The bit about one man staying with the body surely indicates the presence of Rob the Gob somewhere along the chain of Chinese whispers...

            M.
            I think it may have been an Edinburgh evening paper.

            There were at least 3 ‘two men’ stories that surfaced the day after the murder.

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            • Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

              I think it may have been an Edinburgh evening paper.

              There were at least 3 ‘two men’ stories that surfaced the day after the murder.
              Thanks for this! I'd be interested to see them all (with refs!), if they can be uploaded in legible form!

              M.
              (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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              • Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                Thanks for this! I'd be interested to see them all (with refs!), if they can be uploaded in legible form!

                M.
                By that I meant, the 2 slaughterman, the two men allegedly seen at 3 o’clock by the wool warehouse watchman and the 2 finders of the body.

                Were there 3 separate sightings? I haven’t looked into it myself. No doubt Dusty will provide us with the full list of early reports that mention 2 finders.

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                • This will allow you to read it easier:

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                  • Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                    Were there 3 separate sightings? I haven’t looked into it myself. No doubt Dusty will provide us with the full list of early reports that mention 2 finders.
                    I've a feeling those reports will be every bit as valuable as that one from ? Edinburgh (or his imaginary revelation about Nichols' stays): nothing that could have been read at Broad Street before Lechmere went home on the Saturday, and nothing that would have convinced anyone that the body hadn't been found by PC Niel (plausibly Irish spelling from the Penny Illustrated...)

                    M.
                    (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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                    • Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
                      This will allow you to read it easier:
                      There has to be a reason why no-one is naming the paper...

                      M.

                      (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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                      • Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                        There has to be a reason why no-one is naming the paper...

                        M.
                        The reason I don't name the paper is that I'm leaving it up to Dusty's discretion. You childishly insult him one moment (**boggle**) and then beg for more information or clarification the next (maybe Dusty should consider joining the Maybrick threads!)

                        Although I know the source, what I think it actually represents is a report that first appeared in Star (London) probably taken from one of their later editions. Much of the info. is identical and similarly worded to a more well-known Star report of the same date. More research would confirm this, I think, but I'm not all that interested at the moment.

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                        • Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

                          The reason I don't name the paper ...
                          ... is that the paper's name and details undermine the hostile point the clipping is meant to make.

                          M.
                          (Image of Charles Allen Lechmere is by artist Ashton Guilbeaux. Used by permission. Original art-work for sale.)

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                          • Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
                            This will allow you to read it easier:
                            Thanks, Roger!
                            "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
                            Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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                            • Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                              In my view, the most logical conclusion from the evidence is that Cross wasn’t investigated. He gave a statement at some point and it was taken at face value.
                              I agree, Gary. Based on the evidence we have, it doesn’t seem they investigated him. If true, I think it has to mean that the police either never took note of the fact that Lechmere didn't tell Mizen that he and Paul had found & examined the body, or they did, questioned him about it and found his explanation for it satisfactory. I can’t really see why the police shouldn’t have wanted to get that cleared up.
                              "You can rob me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."
                              Clint Eastwood as Gunny in "Heartbreak Ridge"

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                              • Originally posted by Mark J D View Post

                                ... is that the paper's name and details undermine the hostile point the clipping is meant to make.

                                M.
                                Edinburgh Evening News, Saturday 1st December.

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