Kosminski and Victim DNA Match on Shawl - Part 2

[GUT]

Jari on BBC televisons Crimewatch Roadshow this morning telling the world how he has solved the case through his DNA procedure

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Yep well what more is there to say.

One question though, was it live or an old tape?

[Trevor Marriott]

Jari on TV

Jari on BBC televisons Crimewatch Roadshow this morning telling the world how he has solved the case through his DNA procedure

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[jmenges]

By appearances it looks like he intended to make money off the shawl, and presenting it in documentaries, then the gift shop, tours, and the book are all efforts he's made towards that end. I wouldn't say the shop was a promotional stunt for his book. It was a promotional effort for himself as the owner of the shawl.

JM

[pinkmoon]

I don't recall many authors who have had the money to open a Jack the Ripper gift shop shortly before they had had their book published.

Still doesn't explain how it is proposed that Russell Edwards' was in the business of making money from his boook.

For the sake of common sense,libel laws and me getting banned from this fantastic site we will leave it there.

[PaulB]

I can't recall many authors who have opened a jack the ripper gift shop shortly before they have had their book published.

I don't recall many authors who have had the money to open a Jack the Ripper gift shop shortly before they had had their book published.

Still doesn't explain how it is proposed that Russell Edwards' was in the business of making money from his boook.

[pinkmoon]

I wonder how it is proposed that Russell Edwards would have planned to make money from his book? It was Dr L. who identified the DNA, which was either something he did honestly (albeit making a quite serious mistake) or was something he was paid to do, for which there is absolutely no evidence at all. In effect Edwards merely supplied the "apron" and then went along for the ride with whatever Dr L told him. It's hardly surprising that he might have seen £ signs when he got the results. who wouldn't. Oterise I am not sure how this book could have been perceived as a money-making enterprise before Dr L gave his verdict.

I can't recall many authors who have opened a jack the ripper gift shop shortly before they have had their book published.

[PaulB]

I wonder how it is proposed that Russell Edwards would have planned to make money from his book? It was Dr L. who identified the DNA, which was either something he did honestly (albeit making a quite serious mistake) or was something he was paid to do, for which there is absolutely no evidence at all. In effect Edwards merely supplied the "apron" and then went along for the ride with whatever Dr L told him. It's hardly surprising that he might have seen £ signs when he got the results. who wouldn't. Oterise I am not sure how this book could have been perceived as a money-making enterprise before Dr L gave his verdict.

[alkuluku]

When you want to shout "case closed" you must make sure you have your facts right because lots of people will part with their money and buy your book and to take money of people knowing your facts are wrong or not checking your facts properly is wrong and is borderline to fraud.

If you are in the business of making money, all you need to do is to shout "case closed" louder and louder to block the voice of reason trying to distract the paying public. And when you don't have the facts, there's always the good old personal attacks.

[pinkmoon]

When you want to shout "case closed" you must make sure you have your facts right because lots of people will part with their money and buy your book and to take money of people knowing your facts are wrong or not checking your facts properly is wrong and is borderline to fraud.

[Batman]

The scientific community has never accepted a pop culture book as a scientific case in the first place. Its done through academic journals. If they don't reference the primary sources on this subject then its value is about as much as a blog.

Selling things by slapping science on it has been going on since magical oils where invented to cure all ills.

The fact is the books findings have never been presented scientifically as scientists do it, despite this avenue being available to them 24/7.

[pinkmoon]

I agree, Russell Edwards clearly comes across as an altruistic seeker of the truth. Or maybe I've just slightly misread him and his intentions!

Yes how dare people insinuate that Mr Edwards was purely after money he didn't solve the case but he certainly gave the jelly bean industry a much needed boost in these hard financial times

[John G]

I'm just pleased that this shawl d.n.a business was never about the money but a genuine attempt to solve this unique case.

I agree, Russell Edwards clearly comes across as an altruistic seeker of the truth. Or maybe I've just slightly misread him and his intentions!

[Amanda]

I'm just pleased that this shawl d.n.a business was never about the money but a genuine attempt to solve this unique case.

Steady on, I've just spilled my coffee!!

Amanda

[pinkmoon]

I'm just pleased that this shawl d.n.a business was never about the money but a genuine attempt to solve this unique case.

[Amanda]

It's interesting to see the quotation from Russell Edwards in that article:
Mr Edwards disputed this saying: "The Jack the Ripper community don’t want this to ever be solved so what they’ve done is used the name of a scientist, who’s thrown doubt on the scientific work, and they ignored the fact we got a match.
"But we can easily eliminate this. They’ve obfuscated the truth."

One wonders why he thinks members of the community tried to help him with his research in the first place, if they didn't want the case to be solved!

All I can say is there obviously isn't much going on in Watford if they can make a full page out of that!
Amanda