Kosminski and Victim DNA Match on Shawl - Part 2

[Debra A]

Debs is that a suspect book or a suspect book?

Yes, a suspect suspect book, Robert.

[Jeff Leahy]

I am not questioning him or his dna research I realize he has been putting a great deal of work into it.

What I am trying to asceratin is that could all of this have been avoided if those advising him had been aware of the issues that have now arisen. Surely John Bennett astute as he is should have seen the warning signs and heard the warning bells ringing? Or was it a case that everyone was taken in by Dr Jari?

There has to be answers !

Having a go at John... Trevor is a cheap trick.

John is a well known tour guide and the guys that do the job all know each other well.

If someone asked John for help I'd imagine he'd give that help because that the kind of guy he is…He also knows this subject better than any other ripperologist I Know..

Its fairly well known john doesn't have a suspect 'BIAS'. I've never heard him put forward a suspect theory and I very much doubt he'd advance Kosminski.

I would imagine if John was involved it was simply to make sure the historical context and info was accurate…Its what he does best,,not suspect ripperology

That said, my dealing with John is that he is a gentleman, a great researcher and humorous writer (Also one of the best guitarists I've come across) He also does a great and very humours impersonation of a number of leading ripperologists. Worth buying him a print alone.

This sort of snide back stabing is surely beneath even you Trevor?

Yours Jeff

[Robert]

Debs is that a suspect book or a suspect book?

[Debra A]

I am not questioning him or his dna research I realize he has been putting a great deal of work into it.

What I am trying to asceratin is that could all of this have been avoided if those advising him had been aware of the issues that have now arisen. Surely John Bennett astute as he is should have seen the warning signs and heard the warning bells ringing? Or was it a case that everyone was taken in by Dr Jari?

There has to be answers !

I don't know that it is any researcher's place to advise an author on what they should or shouldn't write? Nobody 'owns' this case. Edwards just wrote a suspect book with added DNA?!

[Trevor Marriott]

I do apologise - I keep forgetting.

You have to click on that red thing at the bottom of the message, and then you see the answer.

For the record I was not singling you out

[Trevor Marriott]

This is Chris's latest research on the book's DNA revelations:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

For the record I was not singling you out

[Trevor Marriott]

This is Chris's latest research on the book's DNA revelations:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

I am not questioning him or his dna research I realize he has been putting a great deal of work into it.

What I am trying to asceratin is that could all of this have been avoided if those advising him had been aware of the issues that have now arisen. Surely John Bennett astute as he is should have seen the warning signs and heard the warning bells ringing? Or was it a case that everyone was taken in by Dr Jari?

There has to be answers !

[Debra A]

Oh dear did I hit a nerve? guess it is you that cant read, as what you posted was not the answer to the question.

You are one of several ripperologists who have been involved in this book. Why do you and the others decline to tell everyone exactly what your involvement in a book and a major revelation that is in danger of going pear shaped was.

Every dog has his day !

This is Chris's latest research on the book's DNA revelations:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

[Chris]

Oh dear did I hit a nerve? guess it is you that cant read, as what you posted was not the answer to the question.

I do apologise - I keep forgetting.

You have to click on that red thing at the bottom of the message, and then you see the answer.

[Trevor Marriott]

But it's such an interesting subject!

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=7550

Oh sorry - forgot about your reading difficulties:

http://forum.casebook.org/showpost.p...8&postcount=10

Oh dear did I hit a nerve? guess it is you that cant read, as what you posted was not the answer to the question.

You are one of several ripperologists who have been involved in this book. Why do you and the others decline to tell everyone exactly what your involvement in a book and a major revelation that is in danger of going pear shaped was.

Every dog has his day !

[Chris]

We are not talking about any of my books are we?

But it's such an interesting subject!

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=7550

Just answer the question as to what was your involvement and contribution was ?

Oh sorry - forgot about your reading difficulties:

http://forum.casebook.org/showpost.php?p=312248&postcount=10

[Trevor Marriott]

You do realise this isn't like one of your books, don't you?

I mean, the text wasn't actually written by the people mentioned on the acknowledgments page...

We are not talking about any of my books are we? Same old chestnut lets throw up a smoke screen and have a go at the poster ! its wearing a bit thin now.

Just answer the question as to what was your involvement and contribution was ?

Along with all the others, lets see some transparency !

[barnflatwyngarde]

I am probably repeating something that someone has already pointed out, but the posts re the shawl are so numerous I may have missed it.

Science is unique in that scientists publish their findings in order that they may be subjected to peer review. One of the major tools scientists like Dr Louhelainen have at their disposal is the use of Double Blind Review.

Nothing will be solved until the shawl is subjected to a rigid Double Blind Review by Dr Louhalainen's peers.

Having read Russell Edward's book, it struck me that the tests on the shawl all seemed a bit haphazard, a bit loose, but I may be being unfair here.

The shawl seems to inhabit the same hinterland as the Maybrick diary, but I am also reminded that all swans are white, until a black one turns up.

[Roy Corduroy]

Chris I would like to set the record straight here that I did not introduce negativism into this thread re you. In post 10 you answered Simon's query about your involvement in Mr. Edwards' project , and I honestly did not understand. So I asked you some clarifying questions in post 14 which you were kind enough to answer in post 26, for which I thanked you post 64.

As far as I can tell, it was post 16, where poster MickReed quoted a portion of my question to you and introduced something about 'negative Private Messages.' Which I know nothing of because I have neither sent nor received such negative messages.

You answered my question, Chris, which I think was a valid one. Research by yourself and others about Aaron Kosminski and various areas has been ongoing for 25 years. I didn't know if you were aware the Edwards research involved DNA testing of descendants and the shawl and you answered yes you were aware.

You and so many people here do and have done good research. I follow along and enjoy all of it and learn from it.

Thanks again,

Roy

[Debra A]

You do realise this isn't like one of your books, don't you?

I mean, the text wasn't actually written by the people mentioned on the acknowledgments page...

I shouldn't but I'm going to.