Is Kosminski the man really viable?

[Errata]

I occurs to me that this whole Polish Jew suspect theory couldn't possibly have been Anderson's idea. He wasn't there. He left before Annie Chapman's Murder, and came back right before Mary Kelly's murder. Of course he would have been given the facts of the various cases, but as far as suspect development goes, he wasn't there for that part. So really he would have just gotten summaries.

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Anderson plucked his Polish Jew from Macnaghten's memorandum.

Occam's Razor.

Regards,

Simon

[robhouse]

Hi All,

Anderson plucked his Polish Jew from Macnaghten's memorandum.

Occam's Razor.

Regards,

Simon

That makes no sense at all. That's not Occam's Razor. That's merely simplistic thinking.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Rob,

In this particular context Occam's Razor makes the most perfect sense.

It's putting your trust in either Macnaghten or Anderson which is simplistic.

Regards,

Simon

[robhouse]

Hi Rob,

In this particular context Occam's Razor makes the most perfect sense.

It's putting your trust in either Macnaghten or Anderson which is simplistic.

Regards,

Simon

Discarding a large amount of what is said in 2 separate primary sources does not fit the definition of Occam's Razor.

Rob

[Phil Carter]

That makes no sense at all. That's not Occam's Razor. That's merely simplistic thinking.

Hell Rob,

And here I sit remembering what we are reminded of left right and centre.. that "the simple answer is normally the best".
Oh well.


best wishes

Phil

[robhouse]

And here I sit remembering what we are reminded of left right and centre.. that "the simple answer is normally the best".

I agree... assuming you actually look at the evidence. But if you choose to discard the evidence... this is not simple. Claiming that the Ripper didn't exist also doesn't qualify as Occam's razor in my book.

Rob

[Phil Carter]

I agree... assuming you actually look at the evidence. But if you choose to discard the evidence... this is not simple. Claiming that the Ripper didn't exist also doesn't qualify as Occam's razor in my book.

Rob

Hello Rob,

Occam's razor?..Oh...

You mean that if DSS makes a lovely list in copperplate writing of more than 5victims in the Whitechapel murder series, including ones after Kosminski is packed off to an asylum, the logical conclusion is that Kosminski cannot be the Whitechapel murderer? Isn't that Occam's razor too?

Or the fact that he made the list in the first place, thereby putting the end page annotation of the named "Kosminski" in direct conflict with said list?
Both written by the same man, note. Occam's razor conclusion?....

The simplest answer is there. Swanson was expanding on Anderson's suspect, not his own..because in the DSS list..Kosminski wouldn't apply if the list is true. Occam's razor, I believe.


best wishes

Phil

[Phil H]

I occurs to me that this whole Polish Jew suspect theory couldn't possibly have been Anderson's idea. He wasn't there. He left before Annie Chapman's Murder, and came back right before Mary Kelly's murder. Of course he would have been given the facts of the various cases, but as far as suspect development goes, he wasn't there for that part. So really he would have just gotten summaries.

How do you think Anderson worked? Why do you think Swanson was given the co-ordinating role he had?

Warren and Anderson were not traipsing around the East End at all hours!1 neither, I suspect was Swanson most of the time. They were desk warriors, the equivalent of the "bridge" on a warship, directing the activities of the various parts of the organisation.

Anderson was also back in London by the time the furore was at its height, and capable of assessing the responses from the house to house and the contents of the notebooks.

These men were trained administrators - that's what the old, English, classical/grammar school education was aimed to produce - imperial adminsitrators. And, by and large, they were good at what they did.

Phil H

[Simon Wood]

Hi Phil H,

If you hurry there's still time to edit your post for rationality.

Regards,

Simon

[Wickerman]

I occurs to me that this whole Polish Jew suspect theory couldn't possibly have been Anderson's idea. He wasn't there. He left before Annie Chapman's Murder, and came back right before Mary Kelly's murder. Of course he would have been given the facts of the various cases, but as far as suspect development goes, he wasn't there for that part. So really he would have just gotten summaries.

Errata, everything Anderson knew he learned from Swanson. It was Swanson who handled every piece of information. Every letter, every report, nothing was filed or acted upon unless it came across his desk first.

Swanson made reports out to Anderson so, whatever Anderson learned he learned from Swanson's reports. This is one reason I suspect Swanson was just filing in the blanks in his old boss's memoirs. Swanson was not saying Kosminski was 'his' suspect, he is clarifying who Anderson was writing about.

Regards, Jon S.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Jon,

"It was Swanson who handled every piece of information. Every letter, every report, nothing was filed, unless it came across his desk first."

And then there was Jonas Elp, dealt with at a diplomatic level.

Explain.

Regards,

Simon

[Casebook Wiki Editor]

Hi Jon,

"It was Swanson who handled every piece of information. Every letter, every report, nothing was filed, unless it came across his desk first."

And then there was Jonas Elp, dealt with at a diplomatic level.

Elp came in through diplomatic channels, through the Ambassador to Austria. What are you suggesting?

[Simon Wood]

Hi Sir Robert,

What am I suggesting?

What I'm suggesting is that "eyes and ears" Swanson had nothing to do with this particular crock of Ripper nonsense.

Regards,

Simon

[Casebook Wiki Editor]

Hi Sir Robert,

What am I suggesting?

What I'm suggesting is that "eyes and ears" Swanson had nothing to do with this particular crock of Ripper nonsense.

That sounds reasonable to me if you have Elp in mind. One man's Ripper nonsense is another man's suspect so just checking.