Jill The Ripper Theories

[Cogidubnus]

Oh yes...

A worthy response David...

I salute you!

Dave

[DVV]

The Basques, Dave ?
They were busy with Roland at Ronceveaux at the time Emma Smith was aborting.

Cheers

[Cogidubnus]

Basque-ards

From Bayonne David? Where the local bus system is called STAB ? Oh those perfidious froggies!



All the best

Dave

[DVV]

Ah, but then I can name a suspect, Lynn : Dr Killeen, aka Bayonet.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

I gave at the orifice.

Hello David. Or possibly an inept abortion doctor who had trouble distinguishing small orifices and their locations.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

After the "gang attack gone wild" theory...

It wasn`t just a fall, witnesses at the inquest described how her ear had nearly been torn off.

An otitis gone wild, I suppose.

Cheers Jon

[lynn cates]

O K

Hello Martin. Thanks.

"I'm going to hang on to my Emma Smith theory for a while."

Just as you wish.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hi Martin

I'm going to hang on to my Emma Smith theory for a while.
Banged up can also be interpreted as injured, perhaps a fall,something a woman who has lost a lot of blood and feeling faint may be prone to.
Neither is it impossible she was pregnant, a woman who had a lot of unprotected sex is more likely to become pregnant?

It wasn`t just a fall, witnesses at the inquest described how her ear had nearly been torn off.

Also, the Doctors who attended to her would have noticed if she had been pregnant (especially if the alleged abortion only took place a few hours earlier)

[martin wilson]

I'm going to hang on to my Emma Smith theory for a while.
Banged up can also be interpreted as injured, perhaps a fall,something a woman who has lost a lot of blood and feeling faint may be prone to.
Neither is it impossible she was pregnant, a woman who had a lot of unprotected sex is more likely to become pregnant?

[C. F. Leon]

Is true that someone has SERIOUSLY suggested Queen Victoria as a suspect? It was mentioned very briefly in passing on one of the podcasts, but I recall hearing the idea before somewhere else. Supposedly HRH was running around in the nude hacking up whores.

Right .... With Gull, Churchill, Anderson and the rest of the Keystone Koppers chasing HRH in Netty's coach. Can you imagine Gladstone directing the whole thing from a Victorian version of the Big Board in a secure room under Buckingham Palace? And a bunch of scantedly-clad (for the 1880s) 'Bond Beauties' moving little figures on the map (with suspiciously phallic-shaped pushers)?

Sorry, I lost myself. Nevermind.

(Got a GREAT idea for a book, Mr. Publisher, Sir!!!)

[Mayerling]

I'm only offering this for the sake of completeness, but E. J. Wagner in The Science of Sherlock Holmes, offers as a suspect Constance Kent, who had served 20 years for the murder of her younger brother when she was sixteen.
I'm not sure how serious Wagner is being, the main point in the Constance Kent discussion is how authorities may bungle evidence, and the Ripper idea is briefly brought up to point out some similarities.

Constance Kent was released from prison in 1885 after 20 years. She then emigrated to Australia to live there (with her brother) until her death (at age 100) in the 1940s.

She was not in England in 1888.

Jeff

[DVV]

0ff-thread

Emma Smith pregnant ?
(45 in 1888, alcoholic)
Abortion ?
That's for the thread "How to make ripperology better", imho.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

assault

Hello Martin.

"There seems to be a dearth of corroborative evidence in her case, so maybe it was a botched abortion rather than an assault."

Of course, she was otherwise "banged up." Perhaps a good indicator of assault?

Cheers.
LC

[martin wilson]

There is no evidence Emma Smith was pregnant, still the website Real Choice has some alarming examples of women inserting objects to induce abortion.
There seems to be a dearth of corroborative evidence in her case, so maybe it was a botched abortion rather than an assault.
After seeing an ad for a nostrum claiming to cure among other things,Brights disease on JTR forums I have wondered where Annie Chapman got those pills from.

[Phil H]

I believe the current view is that Constance Kent "took the wrap" for her brother (see Kate Summerscale's excellent book: "The Suspicions of Mr Whicher").

So Constance may have killed no one.