You are Hutchinson and you're in trouble....

[harry]

Carol,
Hutchinson could lie if the male was a figment of his imagination.Kelly of course was dead.

[Observer]

Just listened to the MJK podcast and something came to mind... If you beleive the GH statement to be a lie, then how could he have pretended to see MJK at 2am WITHOUT FEAR OF CONTRADICTION unless he knew exactly where she was at the time stated.

Hi Carol

That's a very good observation. It has been speculated that when Hutchinson presented himself at Commercial Street police station on the evening of the 12th November, he was not aware of the content of the inquest held earlier in the day. As you imply, he gave his testimony without any fear of contradiction, it could well be that he was fully conversant with the inquest content before he decided to give his evidence.

all the best

Observer

[carol smith]

Just listened to the MJK podcast and something came to mind... If you beleive the GH statement to be a lie, then how could he have pretended to see MJK at 2am WITHOUT FEAR OF CONTRADICTION unless he knew exactly where she was at the time stated.

[caz]

Itīs about eating kidneys, Ruby ...!

Spoilsport, Fishy.

It's more fun leaving 'em with stuff whizzing over their heads.

In fact it's much niser.

Love,

Caz
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[Rubyretro]

Wow! Seems someone's missing some letters on their kybrd!

very apt.

[John Winsett]

Hutchinson claims to have met Kelly on Commercial Street.I do not Know whether he viewed the corpse before he stated the connection,but whether he used the words mentioned,or it was a police description,Hutchinson signed to that effect,and that he knew the victim and the female he reportedly encuntered on Commercial Street were one and the same.Well the killer could have stated that,and only the killer.

Wow! Seems someone's missing some letters on their kybrd!

[Fisherman]

Itīs about eating kidneys, Ruby ...!

The best,
Fisherman

[Rubyretro]

Nise

????

Sorry -I make Peace Caz -I enjoy your posts..

[caz]

The female he reportedly what on Commercial St?? I thought Jack did that later in her room. Nise new word for it though.

Okay, Harry, so only the killer could have stated what Hutch did in his police statement - and the police were bigger fools than you or me.

That's comforting.

Love,

Caz
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[harry]

Hutchinson claims to have met Kelly on Commercial Street.I do not Know whether he viewed the corpse before he stated the connection,but whether he used the words mentioned,or it was a police description,Hutchinson signed to that effect,and that he knew the victim and the female he reportedly encuntered on Commercial Street were one and the same.Well the killer could have stated that,and only the killer.

[caz]

'I met the murdered woman Kelly' just reads like police statement-speak to me. The reason it doesn't sound particularly natural could be that it wasn't. Cops like to get the necessary info down concisely. So we shouldn't expect anyone's statement to be along the lines of:

"Well I saw Mary that night and then blow me down if I didn't hear later that another 'orrible murder had happened in her very room and they said it was her body they found inside."

The deceased had already been identified as Kelly (Joe Barnett's ex), and the police would have established before pen was put to paper that Hutch was claiming it was this same woman he saw on Commercial St and followed back to her room.

The result - six simple words that explain precisely who the witness was claiming to have met.

Love,

Caz
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[John Winsett]

Because of the condition of the corpse,and a difficulty in identification,some people question whether it was Kelly,Even Barnett seemed to find it hard.I believe it was Kelly,but I wonder how many of those who viewed the remains,were satisfied.

True Hutchinson only came forward on the Monday,but it appears to me to have been a prepared statement,and not something conjured up on the spur of the moment.So while it can be inferred to have been common knowledge on the monday that Kelly was the victim,we cannot be certain that it was only at that late time that Hutchinson became aware that it was Kelly who had been killed.

Very good point. This would've spurred him to come forward as he might've thought he was recognized hanging around.

[harry]

Because of the condition of the corpse,and a difficulty in identification,some people question whether it was Kelly,Even Barnett seemed to find it hard.I believe it was Kelly,but I wonder how many of those who viewed the remains,were satisfied.

True Hutchinson only came forward on the Monday,but it appears to me to have been a prepared statement,and not something conjured up on the spur of the moment.So while it can be inferred to have been common knowledge on the monday that Kelly was the victim,we cannot be certain that it was only at that late time that Hutchinson became aware that it was Kelly who had been killed.

[dixon9]

Hi Harry

imo Hutch saying" i met the murdered woman Kelly" would be what most of us would say if questioned three days after the event.I presume three days after the MJK murder most on the street had her down as the victim as it being in her home.

Dixon9
still learning

[Marc]

he might not have fancied a one on one with a bloke bigger than him....knife or otherwise.....

Perhaps, but I must confess I have a hard time believing that someone able to eviscerate harmless human beings, taking efforts to behead them, etc...would hesitate to blow at an individual who would be an obstacle on the way between jail or freedom.

This issue makes me wonder how many (if any, but I'd guess there were a few at least) serial killers murdered people out of their victimology target area simply because these represented a threat to them.

FWIW, according to my father who witnessed a few weird things in Algeria, back in the late 50's, there are no such things as cowardice or bravery, not to mention 'thinking', when someone has a weapon in hand and feel threatened.