The Statement of George Hutchinson

[Ben]

And the limited space doesn't change the dynamics of curving in instead of out on a h.

Ally,

How do you know? It might well change when the space for embroidery is limited.

[Ally]

Hi Brenda,
, nor did she assert that he was left-handed. Only that the markings and prints may indicate that he used his left hand to write the signature.

Best regards,
Ben

Ben,

I mean really. Come on. I realize reason isn't your strong suit when it comes to either of the two subjects being discussed here, but really, COME ON.

And the limited space doesn't change the dynamics of curving in instead of out on a h.

Thank you Ben. What I said about the statement is correct. As I have now said a really tedious number of times, I can prove those observations. Where I cannot I have said as much. But as you will. Bring on the circular arguments. As to the Chat, guess it must be possible since its been happening to me for days. The Chatroom. Not the site. The Flash Player, maybe? I wouldn't know-I leave it to the experts. But what on earth has that got to do with anything?

[Ben]

Fair enough, Mike, but if people feel that way about her, it doesn't make sense to pay her comments such inordinate attention. Just move on, if that's the way you feel. I'm not criticising you for it, but at the same time, I hardly see this as a cue for another relentless Hutchinson brawl.

Ben

[The Good Michael]

But I think it's probably best that we await Crystal's elaborations if she's willing to participate.

Are you a glutton for punishment? No one will believe her interpretation. She's nuts. Really, I don't understand why anyone would want her input on this. If you can trust her, you have a short memory.

Mike

[Ben]

Hi Brenda,

I'd agree with your intepretation. It would appear that the limited space available may have prompted Abberline to forgo his usually more embroidered "H". It might be worth reminding everyone that Crystal never said anything about ruling out Hutchinson as a suspect, nor did she assert that he was left-handed. Only that the markings and prints may indicate that he used his left hand to write the signature. But I'm sure you'd agree that it's probably best that we await Crystal's elaborations if she's willing to participate.

Best regards,
Ben

[Fisherman]

That´s a narrow win for you, Ally!

Fisherman

[Fisherman]

Brenda writes:

"maybe he just didn't have enough space for fancy flourishes."

Maybe, Brenda. But the space afforded would not have had an impact on which way he bent the left hand leg of his "H", would it? It is bent the other way in "the Queens Head", producing a "bow" pointing to the left, whereas Abberlines left "H" leg "bows" consistently point to the right.

Fisherman

[Ally]

Even without fancy flourishes, the lines of his H's CURVE inward every single time he writes them, in direct contrast to the H's alleged to be his.

[Brenda]

It appears that he had very little room to put in the words "Queen's Head" so maybe he just didn't have enough space for fancy flourishes.

[Bob Hinton]

Alteration

That's correct, Mike:

"Abberline has also written on the statement of George Hutchinson. He signs for submission on page three of the statement, and also completes the endorsement on the back of page three of the statement....

The statement has, having been signed by Hutchinson and Badham, then been altered by Abberline. This is at the point where the original statement text in Badham's hand 'Ten Bell' has been struck through and altered to 'Queen's Head'."

(From Crystal's first post)

I just don’t see that Abberline did the correction. Here are some samples. The H in Queens’s head is quite a straightforward two vertical and one horizontal. Abberline’s H’s are much more florid. Abberline’s handwriting is much more flowing and practiced, he is quite at home with the pen.

The correction is much more stilted and hesitant.

[Ally]

I am quite sure Crystal is a document examiner also. However, there are incompetent people in every profession, and we have no way of knowing what degree of competency she has. When you add that to her willingness to completely fabricate, lie and manipulate the truth, her conclusions are suspect.

However, for those who are willing to believe that she is competent and professional it must come as a relief that she has ruled out Hutchinson as a suspect completely by virtue of identifying him as left handed.

[babybird67]

being kicked from chat?

is it physically possible to be kicked from chat because the internet connection has failed, yet still be showing online under the "who's online" facility, perusing the message boards?

[Ben]

That's correct, Mike:

"Abberline has also written on the statement of George Hutchinson. He signs for submission on page three of the statement, and also completes the endorsement on the back of page three of the statement....

The statement has, having been signed by Hutchinson and Badham, then been altered by Abberline. This is at the point where the original statement text in Badham's hand 'Ten Bell' has been struck through and altered to 'Queen's Head'."

(From Crystal's first post)

[The Good Michael]

Bob,

Crystal said that the corrections matched Abberline's handwriting. At least I think that's what she said. I'm not wading back to look it up though.

Mike