Only one man would know

[The Good Michael]

Malcolm,

You mean 'idle' speculation, I think, unless Hutchinson is an idol of sorts.

There is nothing as bad as the Royal Conspiracy, thank you very much.

Mike

[Malcolm X]

this is like the Royal Conspiracy theory........... no foundation in fact whatsoever, just idol speculation

[The Good Michael]

given the case-specifics involved here, it wouldn't have made sense. The likelihood of such a payment becoming public knowledge was just to great, and the consequences too grave to risk it.

I completely disagree that it was unlikely. Did it happen? I don't know. Makes sense to me, but to call it unlikely is to deny history. If you'd like, I kind find many examples of money being paid out by government and police for rewards throughout history. This instance is no different. In fact, it is quite likely. I'm not referring to Hutch, but as a generality. Police do pay people for information, and it isn't always published information.

Cheers,

Mike

[Ben]

I meant in this particular case, Mike, for the reasons I've outlined above. Of course there are examples of people being paid "hush" money throughout history, but given the case-specifics involved here, it wouldn't have made sense. The likelihood of such a payment becoming public knowledge was just to great, and the consequences too grave to risk it.

Best regards.
Ben

[Malcolm X]

One thing that leads me to suspect that Hutchinson was paid was that initially, he was believed. In fact, his description seems to have been trusted. No doubt some would say that this was because he painted a picture of someone who was stereotypically a man many could dislike and could believe did it ('e ain't one'uv us!). Yet, if money was paid out, it would make sense that they would want to have something to show for their money, and so took the lead very seriously, more seriously than other leads for which, perhaps no money was doled out.

Cheers,

Mike

On with the arguing!

yes maybe he was paid...... but he did not see Churchill, the original statement points towards him seeing a foreign person/Jew and ``i think i saw him down Petticoat lane``

if he saw Churchill or a posh British gent, his decription would've said so... the Churchill farce came much later and is obviously total rubbish.

he also did not see Churchill and was thus paid to hush it up/ change his description to a LA DE DA jew.... this is in the realms of ``cloud cookoo land`` and i very much doubt Hutch even knew what Churchill looked like at that time!

[The Good Michael]

It's very unlikely that any witness received payment.

Ben,

Absolutely untrue. Throughout history people have been paid for information, and much of it is kept hushed. You know this very well. To say it is unlikely that ANYONE got paid is to refute something that is almost a certainty.

Cheers,

Mike

[Malcolm X]

Hi Richard,
sorry I'm new and not quite up to date on the topic. Can you elaborate what is the evidence that recently surfaced that money was given to the witness?
Thanks & best wishes,
IchabodCrane

EVIDENCE EVIDENCE EVIDENCE..........none at all, sorry!

[Ben]

Hi Mike,

It's very unlikely that any witness received payment. As soon as it became public knowledge that witnesses were being paid off simply for coming forward and delivering an account, the police would have been bombarded with hoards of new "witness" coming forward and bull$hitting their way into receiving similar treatment, not to mention all the earlier witnesses re-emerging to ask why they weren't paid.

It just wouldn't be practical.

Best regards,
Ben

[Malcolm X]

Malcolm,
we've to be fair with Richard.
He never said he believed in Sir Randolph as a suspect.
Just check the opening post of this thread.

Amitiés, all.

i dont care, my main arguement is that there is no proof of this radio broadcast, only Richard seems to have heard it, and this later Lord Randolf Churchill theory, is just total twaddle, it's 100% fabricated by people that want to perpetuate a conspiracy theory.....it's gossip.

Hutch saw Churchill...... come on, does anybody really believe that, in addition; Churchill wouldn't have dressed like that either, that LA DE DA Jew was dressed more like a victorian version of ``Mr Bling`` no class at all!

he was carrying a parcel that just so happens to resemble surgeons knives wrapped up in American cloth, not a hope in hell. the Ripper never carried this, Mary Kelly/the others too, would've been instantly suspicious of this....becaue it tells you strait away ``it looks like he's carrying knives``

this is like seeing ``Prince Eddie strolling around Dorset st on his own`` not a hope in hell.

i'm sorry but this thread really annoys me !

[The Good Michael]

One thing that leads me to suspect that Hutchinson was paid was that initially, he was believed. In fact, his description seems to have been trusted. No doubt some would say that this was because he painted a picture of someone who was stereotypically a man many could dislike and could believe did it ('e ain't one'uv us!). Yet, if money was paid out, it would make sense that they would want to have something to show for their money, and so took the lead very seriously, more seriously than other leads for which, perhaps no money was doled out.

Cheers,

Mike

On with the arguing!

[Ben]

Hi Ichabod,

Try this:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread...ghlight=gossip

All the best,
Ben

[IchabodCrane]

Hi Richard,
sorry I'm new and not quite up to date on the topic. Can you elaborate what is the evidence that recently surfaced that money was given to the witness?
Thanks & best wishes,
IchabodCrane

Hey, where did my post go? How odd! Sorry to say you all missed my erudite wit that time-such a loss!

[DVV]

I've never heard of so much crap in all my life, Lord Randolph Churchill would have never visited a prostitute in Whitechapel............. that is just farcical rubbish, i wont even entertain the thought.

he would've had plenty of high class prostitutes, or normal women to choose from, good grief this is total crap; he would never have stepped into no13 Millers court, it's a disgusting hovel, plus Mary was far too ``underclass`` for an upper class gent like him.... the classes never mixed, he would've visited only a high class brothel and only the best...in the West End, an exclusive club!

and where's this famous radio broadcast, nobody can trace it, and i know somebody who actually spoke to REG and he told me, ``i'm not sure about REG, it could be 50:50 that he was Toppy's son``, he spoke to Reg years ago.

this thread is just silly speculation, there was no payoff, HUTCH was dismissed as unreliable by Abberline, Hutch's statement of what he saw that night is total rubbish, he definitely made it all up, but for what reason remains a mystery.

Malcolm,
we've to be fair with Richard.
He never said he believed in Sir Randolph as a suspect.
Just check the opening post of this thread.

Amitiés, all.

Ooh! Another Toppy thread!