The worst suspect

[Sally]

I suppose that having a notorious ancestor implies a connection to fame of a sort - I think some people would like that - even if the ancestor in question was a criminal.

[Sally]

Although to be fair, most people don't really seem to be accusing Crossmere of anything much. I see the whole thing rather like a case of mass hysteria - but on a really small scale.

[caz]

Well, there will be three ways of tackling such news. You either enjoy your newfound fame, you feel sick about the distant connection or you stay totally indifferent.

I really canīt say which is the better choice. Can you?

Hardly a choice though, Fish. You'd feel how you'd feel.

I'm happy for Sue that she's made of the right stuff to take the accusations so well. Must have excellent genes.

Love,

Caz
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[Trevor Marriott]

caz:

I don't understand how it could make anyone pleased or proud to know they shared any DNA with such a vile brute. But it takes all sorts I suppose.

Well, there will be three ways of tackling such news. You either enjoy your newfound fame, you feel sick about the distant connection or you stay totally indifferent.

I really canīt say which is the better choice. Can you?

And you couldn't meet a nicer lady than Ed Stow's better half, Ms Lechmere, for instance.

That is absolutely true - Sue is a gem and a half!

Yes she is a very nice person I have met her on several occasions but like you and Ed she is totally obsessed in the belief that her relative killed Nichols and was JTR.

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Fisherman]

caz:

I don't understand how it could make anyone pleased or proud to know they shared any DNA with such a vile brute. But it takes all sorts I suppose.

Well, there will be three ways of tackling such news. You either enjoy your newfound fame, you feel sick about the distant connection or you stay totally indifferent.

I really canīt say which is the better choice. Can you?

And you couldn't meet a nicer lady than Ed Stow's better half, Ms Lechmere, for instance.

That is absolutely true - Sue is a gem and a half!

[Harry D]

Lechmere.

[Sally]

I was joking - many people would have similar handwriting, being taught a style at school (a round schoolboy's) hand, as opposed to the other styles used by clerks, lawyers' clerks etc etc before typewriters were in common use.

Best wishes
C4

Didn't somebody suggest Carroll was the Ripper based on anagrams? Or was that my imagination?

Have we had Bram Stoker yet? Surely we have - makes perfect sense....

Actually, his birthday was on 8th November I think - I hope that isn't a clue...

[caz]

Hi,

People have a lot of theories about JtR-suspects and they have their own favourite suspects.

But if you seriously would suggest the worst or least favourable suspect - a suspect that you wouldnīt like to be JtR - who or what type of JtR would that be and why?

Pierre

In keeping with the actual question asked, I really wouldn't like one of my great grandfathers to have been the ripper.

I don't understand how it could make anyone pleased or proud to know they shared any DNA with such a vile brute. But it takes all sorts I suppose. And you couldn't meet a nicer lady than Ed Stow's better half, Ms Lechmere, for instance.

Love,

Caz
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[curious4]

Uhuh - but the suspect recently proposed in his book by the poster Prosector, Francis Craig, also had handwriting that's a fair 'match' for the Dear Boss letter. I suspect there'd be quite a few, actually.

I was joking - many people would have similar handwriting, being taught a style at school (a round schoolboy's) hand, as opposed to the other styles used by clerks, lawyers' clerks etc etc before typewriters were in common use.

Best wishes
C4

[Sally]

I don't know that there is a 'worst' suspect - plenty of fanciful ones though. I find it interesting that many have felt the need to look for an answer here that requires a 'special' person or persons - as if only a perpetrator outside and beyond the mundane existence of most people living in London at the time can account for the existence and apparent invulnerability of 'Jack'. A famous crime should have a famous author, right?

I suppose it's entertaining, if nothing else.

[Sally]

Uhuh - but the suspect recently proposed in his book by the poster Prosector, Francis Craig, also had handwriting that's a fair 'match' for the Dear Boss letter. I suspect there'd be quite a few, actually.

[curious4]

As I have said before, Lewis Carroll's handwriting is a match for the Dear Boss letter. Google it :-). Perhaps he made his escape down a convenient rabbit hole.

Cheers
C4

[John G]

As I've noted before, without incontrovertible DNA evidence there is no remotely reliable way, at this juncture, of providing a remotely decisive argument against any suspect. And as the Russell Edwards Dr L saga perfectly illustrates, even DNA evidence might be effectively challenged.

I mean what other evidence could anyone have apart from highly circumstantial? Evidence of a confession might be useful, although we supposedly already have that with the Maybrick Diary! And, of course, both Druitt and Kosminski seem to have attracted the suspicion of family members. And then, of course, there's Cream and Bury's "confessions".

Contemporary cast iron witness testimony, uncovered by research? That would need to be capable of being challenged, I.e by confronting the witness. And how would you do that when they're all deceased? Oh, mind you, we do have Lawende/Levy/Schwartz's definite ID of Kosminski,for possibly not Kosminksi, but someone else! And then have there's the Grant Grainger ID as well, possibly by the same witness.

A killer whose committed "similar" crimes: Bury. Local with surgical knowledge, with a penchant for setting fires: Thompson. Committed other serial killings: Chapman...

And that's before we even consider whether all of the victim's were killed by a single individual, or whether we're dealing with one killer, two killers, gang, local conspiracy...

Mind you, I'm beginning to think that the worst suspect might be Pierre's suspect, especially given all of the negative/sceptical comments! Something tells me that's a little doubtful, though!

[belinda]

I would not be upset by the naming of any suspect definitively as Jack The Ripper

[Paddy]

Originally Posted by Fisherman View Post
Am I correct in thinking that you are looking for confirmation of your thoughts about your own suspect...?

No, I only use original sources for that.
But hearing so much about who JtR may be or should have been, I think it could create some balance in the discourse about him to hear who he shouldnīt have been.

Pierre please dont think I am being disrespectful, but you have stated on other threads that we would be upset if we knew your suspect. Yet you ask on this thread what would upset us, who would we least want it to be.
While I accept this is a good alternative thinking exersize. Can you accept that as you cannot give any information there could be doubts about your motive?

Pat........