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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Storm Teacup View Post
    Do you think the murderer took his secret to his grave or was there someone, somewhere, perhaps people in privileged positions who knew but dared not make it public?

    I read an article in the Daily Fail about a court battle between a Ripper researcher and the Met Police regarding disclosing documents that are said to include four new suspects for the serial killings and have 36,000 entries detailing police interaction with informants between 1888 to 1912.

    The article reads "However, Scotland Yard reportedly believes disclosing the names could hinder recruiting and gathering information from modern informants, affecting terrorism investigations - and even lead to the Victorians' relatives being attacked.

    Author and former police officer, Trevor Marriott, has tried for three years to see uncensored versions of the documents. He has previously applied under the Freedom of Information Act and, when that was refused, he appealed to the Information Commissioner, which also rejected his attempt.

    He has now appealed to the Information Tribunal, which is expected to release its decision later this year."

    I guess the outcome wasn't in the favor of the ex officer and I agree with him about the absurdity of the reasons given for this censorship.
    The only update is that I recently re submitted another request based on new information only to be told that these records have now been destroyed. I have to say that from what I saw and was able to establish, these records were probably the most interesting and informative historical police records I have ever come across.

    If you want to read about them and my quest in full, all can be found in "Jack the Ripper-The secret Police Files"



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  • drstrange169
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    Hello Storm,

    Trevor is here so you can ask him about any updates.

    There is an old thread about it, somewhere on site if you want to get the full info on what happened.

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  • Storm Teacup
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    Do you think the murderer took his secret to his grave or was there someone, somewhere, perhaps people in privileged positions who knew but dared not make it public?

    I read an article in the Daily Fail about a court battle between a Ripper researcher and the Met Police regarding disclosing documents that are said to include four new suspects for the serial killings and have 36,000 entries detailing police interaction with informants between 1888 to 1912.

    The article reads "However, Scotland Yard reportedly believes disclosing the names could hinder recruiting and gathering information from modern informants, affecting terrorism investigations - and even lead to the Victorians' relatives being attacked.

    Author and former police officer, Trevor Marriott, has tried for three years to see uncensored versions of the documents. He has previously applied under the Freedom of Information Act and, when that was refused, he appealed to the Information Commissioner, which also rejected his attempt.

    He has now appealed to the Information Tribunal, which is expected to release its decision later this year."

    I guess the outcome wasn't in the favor of the ex officer and I agree with him about the absurdity of the reasons given for this censorship.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by curious View Post
    That never stops anyone else. Jump right in any time you're so inclined.
    Ain't that the truth.

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  • curious
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    Originally posted by Marie Antoinette View Post
    Then it was my first post ever. I registered long time ago, and read here almost every day, but I dont feel I have anything interesting to say re Ripper.
    That never stops anyone else. Jump right in any time you're so inclined.

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  • Marie Antoinette
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    Originally posted by MysterySinger View Post
    It's your first post as Marie Antoinette.

    Then it was my first post ever. I registered long time ago, and read here almost every day, but I dont feel I have anything interesting to say re Ripper.

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  • MysterySinger
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    Originally posted by Marie Antoinette View Post
    I can not think of any person who would have been a shocking reveal.
    Maybe, except Abberline himself.

    It seems every man alive in 1888 were at some point in history blaimed for the murders.

    I wonder if this is my first post?
    It's your first post as Marie Antoinette.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Marie Antoinette View Post
    I can not think of any person who would have been a shocking reveal.
    Maybe, except Abberline himself.

    It seems every man alive in 1888 were at some point in history blaimed for the murders.

    I wonder if this is my first post?
    Nope not even that'd shock me.

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  • Marie Antoinette
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    Originally posted by Hercule Poirot View Post
    Each time I get the 'I think I have found him' email notification, I say to myself "Maybe this time, I'll get it" as a kid waiting for the birthday present he always wanted but never got would be doing.

    Well, maybe next year. LOL

    I am so sorry. No, not this year either, it seems

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  • Marie Antoinette
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    I can not think of any person who would have been a shocking reveal.
    Maybe, except Abberline himself.

    It seems every man alive in 1888 were at some point in history blaimed for the murders.

    I wonder if this is my first post?

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    I did read a bit about the Ripper musical here at Casebook, but wasn't aware of it prior to then. I hear it was awful, and not successful?

    Re the dark rock-opera type of thing, that could work, maybe. As long as it glorified the detectives, and not Jack! But since the search has no conclusion, no capture of the villain, it wouldn't be very good dramatically, would it?
    the Chris George one, is dark, but certainly not rock-opera. it has Jack as a reporter, and although i have not seen it, the music is quite dramatic. it was only staged in the US i think, but Chris could confirm that.

    The London one from the 70's is from the point of the victims really. there is no real character of jack, however hints are given it could be druitt.

    I much prefer the London version, probably because it is not as dark.

    it ran for 228 performances so not a complete flop.

    Steve

    i know ther has been a japanesse musical, but know nothing other than that

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  • Pcdunn
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    you obviously missed jack the ripper the musical- london 1970's old music hall style.

    Chris George also did a musical, but you would not call it musical comedy, very dark.

    Steve
    I did read a bit about the Ripper musical here at Casebook, but wasn't aware of it prior to then. I hear it was awful, and not successful?

    Re the dark rock-opera type of thing, that could work, maybe. As long as it glorified the detectives, and not Jack! But since the search has no conclusion, no capture of the villain, it wouldn't be very good dramatically, would it?

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  • Albert
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    There really should be a 'like' button!

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Stop ridiculing and going off topic, Gut.
    In fairness, Pierre, given the title of this thread, to say that you have lost him after finding him is bang on topic.

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
    To be sung by the character "Jack the Knife", I presume!
    Well, I give you props on your lyrics, Mayerling, but shudder at the thought of the Ripper in a musical comedy. (Shades of Hitler dancing in the phony musical concocted by "The Producers"!)
    you obviously missed jack the ripper the musical- london 1970's old music hall style.

    Chris George also did a musical, but you would not call it musical comedy, very dark.

    Steve

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