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  • Jeff Leahy
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Jeff
    You keep banging on about Aaron Kosminski being the most credible suspect, but you wont accept that there is not one scrap of evidence to point to Aaron Kosminski. Not one scrap pf evidence to connect Aaron Kosminki to the Kosminski named by MM, and the name Kosminski which surreptitiously appeared in the Marginalia.

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    I'll state the obvious…which other suspect are you going to champion?

    You see there are many posters here each with there own pet theories, but scratch the surface and they will all scratch each others eyes out..

    Besides the fact that they, as you do, target Kozminski says it all really

    You know that there is one clear leader, which is why so much energy is placed in that direction, is it not?

    Yours Jeff

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Hello pinkmoon,

    I agree. But in Kosminskiworld. .anything but common sense is supplied for you to believe.
    you will wonder next how a person only speaking a foreign language in Brighton found his way to the place...then of course..The mention of an interpreter would have to be left out of the Seaside Home fairy story. And he only ate from the gutter..And drank outside tap water...and never bathed.

    All together now..oh we do.like yo be beside the seaside......


    Phil.
    Ice cream and donkey rides all round!!!! All joking apart I think the facts tell us that kosminski was never a serious ripper suspect and that the "seaside home "I.D never happened I don't blame the police for checking him out at the time because to ignore anyone who committed a crime with a knife in the area so soon after the murders would be stupid police did a good job but they didn't know who jtr was .
    Last edited by pinkmoon; 06-08-2015, 03:20 PM.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    If I was in charge of an asylum and the police notified me that they suspected an inmate of been a deranged serial killer I would be very carefull of my staff's safety I would take no chances and have him restrained and kept on his own.
    Hello pinkmoon,

    I agree. But in Kosminskiworld. .anything but common sense is supplied for you to believe.
    you will wonder next how a person only speaking a foreign language in Brighton found his way to the place...then of course..The mention of an interpreter would have to be left out of the Seaside Home fairy story. And he only ate from the gutter..And drank outside tap water...and never bathed.

    All together now..oh we do.like to be beside the seaside......


    Phil.
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  • pinkmoon
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    I wonder how many asylum employees would have to know about the police's suspicions towards kosminski .I would be quite concerned if one of my staff or one of their relatives would try and sell the story to a newspaper.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    A lot of solitary viceing going on in this thread.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • pinkmoon
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    If I was in charge of an asylum and the police notified me that they suspected an inmate of been a deranged serial killer I would be very carefull of my staff's safety I would take no chances and have him restrained and kept on his own.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by Jeff Leahy View Post
    Unfortunately Philip......

    Lets face it there is not another credible suspect so Aaron Kozminski will run and run. In many directions if what i believe will start to take place.

    Yours Jeff
    Tell you what Jeff.
    1.i got your name right...you get the name right. If you don't know better..then it is Phil. Want to tell me I'm wrong about that too..or want the evidence?
    If so..mind your own business and show respect to a person's printed name. Your ignorance is showing. Your education in moral and social ethics even more so.

    2.It will run and run because you and the odd one or two.like you keep pushing it. Reputation. .reputation. .reputation.

    3. My post was written fact. You avoided every one..again. which is par for the hype course you walk.

    4. Speaks only Germany or Yiddish remember..isn't a danger to himself or anyone..The time frame of attack of insanity..what you call schizophrenia. .doesn't fit your killer bill. All written down at the time. Read it and weep..or do the usual..deflect and ignore. Ahh. .diddums.

    5. Your comments are regarded with pure floccinaucinohilipilification.. just like your INNOCENT suspect Kosminski.



    Phil

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by John G View Post
    Kosminski is certainly not my favoured suspect but I wouldn't completely dismiss him either. Regarding his supposed schizophrenia condition: Sutcliffe wasn't diagnosed with schizophrenia until after he was arrested and, as far as I'm aware, like Kosminski he hasn't been known to be violent whilst incarcerated.
    Sutcliffe should have been nominated for best actor that year

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  • John G
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    Kosminski is certainly not my favoured suspect but I wouldn't completely dismiss him either. Regarding his supposed schizophrenia condition: Sutcliffe wasn't diagnosed with schizophrenia until after he was arrested and, as far as I'm aware, like Kosminski he hasn't been known to be violent whilst incarcerated.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Jeff Leahy View Post
    Unfortunately Philip you have always miss understood the nature od Schizophrenia.. While almost every schizophrenic is harmless they are also human beings and it is simply a matter of fact that a very small percentage can and do become dangerous. It is of course exceptionally rare however the Jack the Ripper crimes fit into that category.

    Schizophrenia is also a cyclical illness. Sufferers having attacks that last typically 18-22 weeks followed by periods of recovery. And like it or not that is what we appear to know about Aaron Kozminski. That he had periods of lucid recovery as explained by his appearance in court walking the dog.

    Yes this is going to be difficult for those of you with blind folds to Anderson's suspect..but there is still a hell of a lot of information yet to surface.

    Lets face it there is not another credible suspect so Aaron Kozminski will run and run. In many directions if what i believe will start to take place.

    Yours Jeff
    Jeff
    You keep banging on about Aaron Kosminski being the most credible suspect, but you wont accept that there is not one scrap of evidence to point to Aaron Kosminski. Not one scrap pf evidence to connect Aaron Kosminki to the Kosminski named by MM, and the name Kosminski which surreptitiously appeared in the Marginalia.

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  • Jeff Leahy
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    No doubt each and every one if these facts will now be turned around and tortuously explained away in favour of this innocent lunatic of being a multi-murdering mind of cunning.
    Phil
    Unfortunately Philip you have always miss understood the nature od Schizophrenia.. While almost every schizophrenic is harmless they are also human beings and it is simply a matter of fact that a very small percentage can and do become dangerous. It is of course exceptionally rare however the Jack the Ripper crimes fit into that category.

    Schizophrenia is also a cyclical illness. Sufferers having attacks that last typically 18-22 weeks followed by periods of recovery. And like it or not that is what we appear to know about Aaron Kozminski. That he had periods of lucid recovery as explained by his appearance in court walking the dog.

    Yes this is going to be difficult for those of you with blind folds to Anderson's suspect..but there is still a hell of a lot of information yet to surface.

    Lets face it there is not another credible suspect so Aaron Kozminski will run and run. In many directions if what i believe will start to take place.

    Yours Jeff
    Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 06-08-2015, 02:27 PM.

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    Like I said before when you have no suspect ANYTHING must look good.
    Hello Pinkmoon,

    Too right. We haven't a real suspect at all.

    Personally speaking. I have no fav suspect of any sort. .but this stuff on Kosminski is fairy story stuff. The only reason it is kept afloat is the fear of the JTR balloon going "pop". Reputations too imo.


    Phil

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    A few facts that just have to be stated.

    Admission Book record. . Colney Hatch. .etc

    Aaron Kosminski
    6th Feb 1891
    Age 26

    (Referring to his mental state)
    If first attack ...No
    Age on first attack...25
    Duration of first attack...6 months (6 years in red ink)
    Cause...Unknown. (self abuse added in red ink)
    Subject to epilepsy...No
    Suicidal...No
    Dangerous to others...No
    Any relative afflicted with insanity...Not known

    1892.
    Nov 17th Quiet and well behaved. Only speaks German (Yiddish?)

    Now..

    The Seaside Home story gets a different twist when the above is considered.

    His first attack is aged 25. That's 1890. The attack of insanity..is added in red ink..afterwards. .to lasting 6 years. Originally thought only to have lasted 6 months. He clearly never really recovered. It CANNOT be that he was insane 6 years before 1891 because the attack was originally thought to have lasted only 6 months..which would still be 2 years
    after 1888.

    Cause of attacks. .unknown. then someone writes in red ink...at a later date...self abuse....!

    He is not considered a danger to others..nor himself.

    He only speaks German. .or Yiddish.


    No doubt each and every one if these facts will now be turned around and tortuously explained away in favour of this innocent lunatic of being a multi-murdering mind of cunning.

    Anyone with common sense can only see what it really is.
    A set up. A frame up. And the Crawford letter is undated. It does not certainly refer to Aaron Kosminski..nor ANY jew.

    Seaside Home? Utter rubbish. Seaside home in Dorset? Oh God..where do I see Abberline's name being edged in here round the back door...or maybe even Druitt.

    Utter rubbish. Con job and frame up in my opinion.



    Phil
    Like I said before when you have no suspect ANYTHING must look good.

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  • Phil Carter
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    facts.

    A few facts that just have to be stated.

    Admission Book record. . Colney Hatch. .etc

    Aaron Kosminski
    6th Feb 1891
    Age 26

    (Referring to his mental state)
    If first attack ...No
    Age on first attack...25
    Duration of first attack...6 months (6 years in red ink)
    Cause...Unknown. (self abuse added in red ink)
    Subject to epilepsy...No
    Suicidal...No
    Dangerous to others...No
    Any relative afflicted with insanity...Not known

    1892.
    Nov 17th Quiet and well behaved. Only speaks German (Yiddish?)

    Now..

    The Seaside Home story gets a different twist when the above is considered.

    His first attack is aged 25. That's 1890. The attack of insanity..is added in red ink..afterwards. .to lasting 6 years. Originally thought only to have lasted 6 months. He clearly never really recovered. It CANNOT be that he was insane 6 years before 1891 because the attack was originally thought to have lasted only 6 months..which would still be 2 years
    after 1888.

    Cause of attacks. .unknown. then someone writes in red ink...at a later date...self abuse....!

    He is not considered a danger to others..nor himself.

    He only speaks German. .or Yiddish.


    No doubt each and every one if these facts will now be turned around and tortuously explained away in favour of this innocent lunatic of being a multi-murdering mind of cunning.

    Anyone with common sense can only see what it really is.
    A set up. A frame up. And the Crawford letter is undated. It does not certainly refer to Aaron Kosminski..nor ANY jew.

    Seaside Home? Utter rubbish. Seaside home in Dorset? Oh God..where do I see Abberline's name being edged in here round the back door...or maybe even Druitt.

    Utter rubbish. Con job and frame up in my opinion.



    Phil
    Last edited by Phil Carter; 06-08-2015, 01:47 PM.

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  • Scott Nelson
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    Am I the only one baffled at how Lawende could've positively identified someone, who he admitted he probably wouldn't recognize again, some seven years after the fact? I'm, of course, referring to Grainger here.
    Lawende wasn't named and the source was a single newspaper story. No police reports survive concerning the identity of the Grainger witness.

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