Favourite 'wildcard' suspect?

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    That's a relief. Your theories on the apron are rather daffy (to put it mildly).
    No more daft than those who suggest the killer cut the apron piece from the apron she was wearing, when the evidence shows she was not wearing an apron.

    Dam hush my lips now !!!!!!!!!!

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    I have replied to your post but do not intend to get involved in the apron piece/graffiti arguments yet again.
    That's a relief. Your theories on the apron are rather daffy (to put it mildly).

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Jon Guy View Post
    Trevor

    We do have the rag in Goulston Street, indicating the killer travelled east from the City, back into Whitechapel.
    Yes you do have it, but you cant prove the killer deposited it, so that's conjecture on your part. You cant even prove the killer wrote the graffiti ? Two unproven myths which have wrongly surrounded this mystery for years.

    I have replied to your post but do not intend to get involved in the apron piece/graffiti arguments yet again.

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  • Jon Guy
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Conversely there doesn't have to be evidence to put a person of interest in Whitechapel at the time of the murders. How do you know that the killer didn't live in West London or anywhere for that matter and traveled into Whitechapel to commit the murders and then left and went home.
    Trevor

    We do have the rag in Goulston Street, indicating the killer travelled east from the City, back into Whitechapel.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    The dates of the murders strongly suggest someone who was not local committing these crimes.
    A traveler perhaps?

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  • pinkmoon
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    The dates of the murders strongly suggest someone who was not local committing these crimes.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    Especially when said author of crime novels writes one that accidentally/absentmindedly outs the murderer in the first 10 pages.
    Just because you have person of interest who resides in the area doesn't automatically make them a suspect.Criminals tend not to commit crime on their own doorstep.

    Conversely there doesn't have to be evidence to put a person of interest in Whitechapel at the time of the murders. How do you know that the killer didn't live in West London or anywhere for that matter and traveled into Whitechapel to commit the murders and then left and went home.

    Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 06-26-2015, 07:46 AM.

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  • Rosemary
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    Quite true

    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    How can some one write a book and claim case closed if they can't even place their subject in the UK at the time of the murders and expect us to take it seriously.
    Especially when said author of crime novels writes one that accidentally/absentmindedly outs the murderer in the first 10 pages.

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    *bump*

    I'm interested in hearing some more wildcards. Me, personally, I think we have to look for local wrong'uns in the area, somebody who had a history of petty crime before the murders took place (that narrows it down, right?). Others would disagree, arguing that the killer could've led a double-life, or he might've been an upper-class gent slumming it in Whitechapel. All perfectly plausible but I have the ineffable sense that the killer wasn't a criminal mastermind, he was the kind who hid in plain sight but the police never caught onto him because of their preconceived notions about the killer.
    Got to be the elephant man.

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  • Harry D
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    *bump*

    I'm interested in hearing some more wildcards. Me, personally, I think we have to look for local wrong'uns in the area, somebody who had a history of petty crime before the murders took place (that narrows it down, right?). Others would disagree, arguing that the killer could've led a double-life, or he might've been an upper-class gent slumming it in Whitechapel. All perfectly plausible but I have the ineffable sense that the killer wasn't a criminal mastermind, he was the kind who hid in plain sight but the police never caught onto him because of their preconceived notions about the killer.

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  • martin wilson
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    I tried to sell these shoddy goods a few years back. No one was buying them then, and no one is interested now, so that's fair comment.
    I should mention the late,great Chris Scotts' book A Cast of Thousands is available onsite. Useful for information on the lesser known suspects and plenty you may not know. Recommended.
    All the best.

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  • pinkmoon
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    I will have to admit that the most interesting and exciting "story" that has ever been linked to the ripper murders is the royal baby story it has drama, intrique,scandal it only lacks one little though TRUTH.

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  • martin wilson
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    Hi all.

    The Royal conspiracy. Another one, this time involving Bertie, Prince of Wales, later Edward VII and his frequenting of Le Chabanais, the infamous Paris brothel.
    He even had a sort of sex chair manufactured, photo's of the contraption are online.
    Founded in 1878 by Madame Kelly, I kid you not, with investment from the Jockey Club de Paris.
    We have Barnett's testimony that Mary Kelly spent a short time in France. Who knows? Perhaps she saw him there, from thence we have a standard blackmail and cover up job as per Stephen Knight.
    Interesting that Astrakhan man had a horseshoe tiepin.......
    You did ask for wildcards!
    All the best.

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  • pinkmoon
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    Exclude the diary connection but I always liked Maybrick as a candidate for jtr his drug addiction could explain our killers risk taking he had the excuse of his cotton business to take him away from home.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    How 'bout Oswald Puckridge. Even though he was, for a short time, considered a suspect by Charles Warren, I think he can be considered a wildcard.

    Released from Hoxton House Asylum on August 4th, 1888 and thought to have medical training. Further research has his profession as a chemist, though. He had 'threatened to rip people up with a long knife' and was in and out of asylums until his death in 1900.
    Hi Jerry
    Yes Puckridge and also Piggott-they were both suspects around the same time, though I believe Piggott was cleared, puckridge not sure. Howver, I believe both were in their early fifties which might rule them out.

    Piggot was found with a bloody hand and they found his bloody shirt. His story of trying to "help" a prostitute up after she fell, being bitten in the hand by her, always struck me as a little odd. To me it sounds like something that would happen if a man was trying to strangle her?!?

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