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  • John G
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    If the killer came from outside Whitechapel he might not have known about the increased police presence, whereas someone from Whitechapel would know first hand.

    And again criminals tend not to commit crime on their own doorstep for obvious reasons.

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    Hi Trevor,

    Yes, possibly. However, as I pointed out in my previous post, what was wrong with the other London districts? I mean, if he wasn't local, or had transport, I see no reason why he would exclusively confine his activities to such a small geographical area.

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  • John G
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    Hi John

    Perhaps the killer wanted to take advantage of the number of prostitutes in Whitechapel and or he felt safer murdering in Whitechapel as opposed to on his doorstep.

    Cheers John
    Hi John,

    But surely there would have been numerous street prostitutes plying their trade in other London boroughs. Moreover, it's a matter of contention as to whether all of JtR's victims were prostitutes. I agree that many serial killers don't target victims in their immediate locality, for obvious reasons. However, what was the problem with other East End districts, such as Islington, Lambeth and Southwark?

    And surely when the heat was turned up in Whitechapel, resulting in a higher police presence and a more vigilant public, it would make sense for a commuter killer to focus his activities on a different district(s). Moreover, doesn't the ease with which he was able to escape detection suggest that he was extremely familiar with Whitechapel and it's numerous passageways, short cuts and escape routes?

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by John G View Post
    I think that the killer was very likely a local. If he was a commuter killer, or had access to transport, i.e. pony and cart, why were his activities focused on a an extremely small geographical area? This is even more inexplicable when you consider that even a substantial increase in police numbers, within the Whitechapel borough, didn't result in the killer changing strategy, i.e. targeting victims in a different London borough with a less intensive police presence.
    If the killer came from outside Whitechapel he might not have known about the increased police presence, whereas someone from Whitechapel would know first hand.

    And again criminals tend not to commit crime on their own doorstep for obvious reasons.

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  • John Wheat
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    Hi John

    Perhaps the killer wanted to take advantage of the number of prostitutes in Whitechapel and or he felt safer murdering in Whitechapel as opposed to on his doorstep.

    Cheers John

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  • John G
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    I think that the killer was very likely a local. If he was a commuter killer, or had access to transport, i.e. pony and cart, why were his activities focused on a an extremely small geographical area? This is even more inexplicable when you consider that even a substantial increase in police numbers, within the Whitechapel borough, didn't result in the killer changing strategy, i.e. targeting victims in a different London borough with a less intensive police presence.

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  • Observer
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    The murders had a pattern look at the dates if our killer lived locally he could quite easily nip out and return home very quickly there would have been more murders and there wouldn't have been two murders in one night either .someone visited Whitechapel to commit these murders this point has been forgotten about over the years also the fact that our killer lived alone is often forgotten about as well.
    After the Catherine Eddowes murder a section of her apron was found in Goulston Street, this proves beyond doubt that the killer was heading back in to the East-End, back into Spitalfields. So, considering this, if the killer lived outside the area, as is your belief, where do you think he was headed?

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    The Celebrity Suspect appears to be unduly popular among the less serious theorists. The trouble with "Could-have's" is, they can be applied to anybody, and likely everybody.
    And you can make up almost anything and say "could have"

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  • Wickerman
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    The Celebrity Suspect appears to be unduly popular among the less serious theorists. The trouble with "Could-have's" is, they can be applied to anybody, and likely everybody.

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  • Rosella
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    I think he (Jack) was an obscure local, who was never suspected. However, Arthur Conan Doyle's name has come up on the JTRF lately, on the grounds that he was a doctor, was callous about skinning seals when he was a ship's surgeon, was fascinated by crime and could have nipped up to London from Southsea, (where he was living in 1888) by train whenever he felt homicidal!

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    How'd you figure?
    The murders had a pattern look at the dates if our killer lived locally he could quite easily nip out and return home very quickly there would have been more murders and there wouldn't have been two murders in one night either .someone visited Whitechapel to commit these murders this point has been forgotten about over the years also the fact that our killer lived alone is often forgotten about as well.

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  • Mayerling
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    Originally posted by Rosemary View Post
    You're so right, I don't know. It could have been one of my great-great uncles coming into Whitechapel from St Anne's Soho with sewing needles, tailor's chalk, & maybe a largish knife, mad in the tertiary stages of syphilis, maybe carrying my great gran's apron for a fetish, but with no anatomical knowledge whatsoever. I've absolutely no idea, I'm just bandying about.
    Hi Rosemary,

    You have my sympathies about your great-great uncle, who sounds totally balmy.

    My favorite candidate would be some local figure we don't know by name, and probably never will. None of the candidates (even those that I find most interesting like Druitt or Tumblety or D'Onston Stevenson) really are fully convincing at this stage. If I had a wildcard I'd throw it for some notorious killer who was later executed (Chapman, Cream, Deeming, Holmes, Mrs. Dyer - although her victims were infants, maybe Mrs. Pearcey). But all of these too have problems for being the Ripper.

    Jeff

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  • Rosemary
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    Clueless

    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Just because you have person of interest who resides in the area doesn't automatically make them a suspect.Criminals tend not to commit crime on their own doorstep.

    Conversely there doesn't have to be evidence to put a person of interest in Whitechapel at the time of the murders. How do you know that the killer didn't live in West London or anywhere for that matter and traveled into Whitechapel to commit the murders and then left and went home.

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    You're so right, I don't know. It could have been one of my great-great uncles coming into Whitechapel from St Anne's Soho with sewing needles, tailor's chalk, & maybe a largish knife, mad in the tertiary stages of syphilis, maybe carrying my great gran's apron for a fetish, but with no anatomical knowledge whatsoever. I've absolutely no idea, I'm just bandying about.
    Last edited by Rosemary; 06-26-2015, 12:14 PM. Reason: English is not my first language.

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by pinkmoon View Post
    The dates of the murders strongly suggest someone who was not local committing these crimes.
    How'd you figure?

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  • pinkmoon
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    A traveler perhaps?
    Quite possibly a traveller or maybe just a person who picked a very good area to carry out his horrendous work .

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    No more daft than those who suggest the killer cut the apron piece from the apron she was wearing, when the evidence shows she was not wearing an apron.

    Dam hush my lips now !!!!!!!!!!

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    Must have been the apron faeries, or failing that a giant rodent.

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