Suspect battle: Cross/Lechmere vs. Hutchinson

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  • Rainbow
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    Originally posted by Columbo View Post
    Not really. he had plenty of time to take off in the other direction. If he was as cool and collected as alleged in the theory he would have no problem getting by anyone else he came across.

    Columbo
    No one had seen a soul.

    He was trapped like a mouse in a tube, between John Neil the police-constable from one side and Robert Paul from the other side, while the blood was still running from the victim's neck.

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  • Columbo
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    I think that depends on where the carman was at the time. If you can prove he was elsewhere, then yes, it creates problems.
    That's true but there's no evidence Lechmere was there either. There's a possibility he may have delivered in the area but since Pickfords records don't go back that far how do we know?

    Columbo

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  • Columbo
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    all other murders the victims had been seen with some person or the another soon before they had been butchered.... Tabram, Chapman, Stride, Eddows, Kelly

    except with Nichols, no one had seen here after she left except Paul, with her killer..
    Tabram was not seen with anyone right before she was killed, it was a few hours before. Chapman and Stride were. Stride was the only one seen being assaulted. Eddowes was also seen with someone soon before and not far from where she was found. Kelly was seen several hours before with someone who probably wasn't her killer.

    Columbo

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Fish

    If what Cadosh heard was indeed Chapman, does that not create time issues for Lechmere?


    Steve.
    I think that depends on where the carman was at the time. If you can prove he was elsewhere, then yes, it creates problems.

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    Cadosch heard something. Did he hear the killer?

    Schwartz's account is dubious. Mrs. Mortimer was standing outside her door around the time of Stride's murder and she didn't hear a thing.

    It was never established that "Oh murder!" emanated from Kelly.
    And all of this means that it was not established that the murders were silent.
    Which, if I am not mistaken, was your point...?

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  • Columbo
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    This is the answer why Lechmere didn't flee...

    he simply hadn't any other choice!

    This case is closed.
    Not really. he had plenty of time to take off in the other direction. If he was as cool and collected as alleged in the theory he would have no problem getting by anyone else he came across.

    Columbo

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    Far better than a random murderer who killed his wife like chapman or bury

    and far better than a random mad jew who was locked in an asylum like Kosmenski, Levy, Hayam, Cohen, Kamnsky

    and far better than a random doctor .......
    or a random suicider who happened to kill himself that time...
    or a random royal family member.

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    How do you define random? you seem to have a strange use of the word.

    Which doctor are you talking about as being random.

    As far as i was aware the royal family member was anything but Random, and completely innocent to boot.


    Steve

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    Which murder would that be? Chapmans, where Cadosh heard the thumping sound against the fence, Strides, where Schwartz heard Lis cry out three times or Kelly´s, where two women heard her cry "Oh, murder!"?

    Oh, you mean the Eddowes murder! I see!
    Fish

    If what Cadosh heard was indeed Chapman, does that not create time issues for Lechmere?


    Steve.

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    Far better than a random murderer who killed his wife like chapman or bury

    and far better than a random mad jew who was locked in an asylum like Kosmenski, Levy, Hayam, Cohen, Kamnsky

    and far better than a random doctor .......
    or a random suicider who happened to kill himself that time...
    or a random royal family member.

    .
    Bury was not a random murderer he used the same M.O. as four of the C5. Strangulation followed by mutilation. Bury's wife Ellen was an ex prostitute. The murders began shortly after Bury arrived in London and ceased shortly after he left London. Bury matches all the psych profiles extremely well.

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
    Which murder would that be? Chapmans, where Cadosh heard the thumping sound against the fence, Strides, where Schwartz heard Lis cry out three times or Kelly´s, where two women heard her cry "Oh, murder!"?
    Cadosch heard something. Did he hear the killer?

    Schwartz's account is dubious. Mrs. Mortimer was standing outside her door around the time of Stride's murder and she didn't hear a thing.

    It was never established that "Oh murder!" emanated from Kelly.

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  • Rainbow
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    Of course it is a random witness was definitely Jack the Ripper.
    Far better than a random murderer who killed his wife like chapman or bury

    and far better than a random mad jew who was locked in an asylum like Kosmenski, Levy, Hayam, Cohen, Kamnsky

    and far better than a random doctor .......
    or a random suicider who happened to kill himself that time...
    or a random royal family member.

    .

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    You mean like in the other murders where no one heard anything?
    Which murder would that be? Chapmans, where Cadosh heard the thumping sound against the fence, Strides, where Schwartz heard Lis cry out three times or Kelly´s, where two women heard her cry "Oh, murder!"?

    Oh, you mean the Eddowes murder! I see!

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  • Rainbow
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    all other murders the victims had been seen with some person or the another soon before they had been butchered.... Tabram, Chapman, Stride, Eddows, Kelly

    except with Nichols, no one had seen here after she left except Paul, with her killer..
    Last edited by Rainbow; 11-05-2016, 12:12 PM.

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    if he was not Lechmere, then he must had flown in the sky

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    You mean like in the other murders where no one heard anything?

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by Rainbow View Post
    This is the answer why Lechmere didn't flee...

    he simply hadn't any other choice!

    This case is closed.
    Of course it is a random witness was definitely Jack the Ripper.

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