John McCarthy

[Joshua Rogan]

Ah, woman rather than women. Or were there others?

Only one that we know of.
Mind you, I don't think Mrs Cox had a brass farthing to her name the night Mary Jane died, yet she was still there six weeks later, so you never know!

[MrBarnett]

Did I say anything about Crossingham, Cooney or Muddle?

You ridiculed the idea that McCarthy might be an ‘esq’. He appears to have been a more prominent, more successful and more charitably-minded individual than the others.

[Scott Nelson]

Did I say anything about Crossingham, Cooney or Muddle?

[MrBarnett]

And let’s not forget that Sgt Thick - Johnny Upright - gave McCarthy et al glowing character references when they committed the crime of the century - arranging an arguably illegal boxing match.

And why did he do that? Possibly because some of the group had a short while previously rescued him from a group of thugs who attacked him when he tried to rescue their pal in a lodging house.

Having the lodging house keepers on your side would have been an invaluable resource to anyone trying to police Spitalfields. Except Abberline, of course, he was an Esq and wouldn’t have stooped so low as to hob-nob with the likes of Jack McCarthy.

[MrBarnett]

Such as...not kicking them out of their room when they fall six weeks behind on the rent?

Ah, woman rather than women. Or were there others?

[Joshua Rogan]

Such as...?

Such as...not kicking them out of their room when they fall six weeks behind on the rent?

[MrBarnett]

What evidence?

Of course, I forgot, you believe the esquires McCarthy, Crossingham, Cooney and Muddle were members of the legal profession.

[Scott Nelson]

What evidence?

[MrBarnett]

Not to mention his stirling work keeping penniless women from sleeping on the streets during the Autumn of Terror.

Such as...?

[Joshua Rogan]

Life Governorships of a Hospital and a Dispensary in recognition of his charitable work.

Not bad for a ‘slum landlord’.

Not to mention his stirling work keeping penniless women from sleeping on the streets during the Autumn of Terror.

[MrBarnett]

Oh wait a minute! I just had a thought. Abberline was there in Dorset Street on the day of the Kelly murder conducting an inventory of her room and sifting through the fireplace ashes. And Jack McCarthy would have been right there too, so he would have known who Abberline was.

Ok, you're right. Now I see where you're coming from.

Yes, ignore the evidence and apply sarcasm as a last resort.

[MrBarnett]

Life Governorships of a Hospital and a Dispensary in recognition of his charitable work.

Not bad for a ‘slum landlord’.

[MrBarnett]

Really? Says who?

The “Duke of Cambridge” Philanthropic Society for instance.

This is from the ELO 30 January, 1886.

[Scott Nelson]

Oh wait a minute! I just had a thought. Abberline was there in Dorset Street on the day of the Kelly murder conducting an inventory of her room and sifting through the fireplace ashes. And Jack McCarthy would have been right there too, so he would have known who Abberline was.

Ok, you're right. Now I see where you're coming from.

[Scott Nelson]

...one of the most prominent local businessmen and his prominent son

Really? Says who?