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  • HelenaWojtczak
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    My first idea was to reply "Oh dear, will Casebook be closed down now we have found JtR" but I decided to eschew humour in favour of the observation that George Chapman had a rival hairdresser at number 97.

    In 1891 Chapman lived at Tewkesbury Buildings, 100 Whitechapel High Street, and was a hairdresser at number 89. So Mr Sawyer's place was in between.

    Helena

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  • Chris Scott
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    Originally posted by 007 View Post
    This book was the subject of a thread back in April. http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6409

    I bought the Kindle version and read it. I found it quite interesting, but having only the most superficial knowledge about Freemasonry I felt unqualified as to render an opinion. I was rather hoping that somebody would take the author up on doing some research.
    Many thanks for the link to that thread - I will have a read

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  • Chris Scott
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    Baptism:
    St Mary Whitechapel
    Year: 1840
    Date: 12 January
    Christian Names: John Pavitt
    Surname: Sawyer
    Parents: Elisha and Sarah
    Abode: Gloucester Street
    Trade (of after): Hairdresser
    When born: Dec. 19th (1839)
    Attached Files

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  • 007
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    This book was the subject of a thread back in April. http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6409

    I bought the Kindle version and read it. I found it quite interesting, but having only the most superficial knowledge about Freemasonry I felt unqualified as to render an opinion. I was rather hoping that somebody would take the author up on doing some research.

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  • Chris Scott
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    John Pavitt Sawyer

    1851:
    1 Gloucester Street, Mile End
    Head: Elisha Sawyer aged 44 born St Botolph - Hairdresser
    Wife: Sarah Sawyer aged 43 born Essex
    Children:
    Richard Francis aged 16
    John P aged 11
    Elisha James aged 1
    All born in Stepney

    1871
    135 Whitechapel High Street
    Head: John Sawyer aged 31 - Perfumer
    Wife: Kate sawyer aged 28
    Children:
    Madeline aged 8
    Agnes aged 6
    Alice aged 4
    John aged 2
    Servant: Jane Short aged 18
    All residents born in London

    1881:
    97 Whitechapel High Street
    Head: John Sawyer aged 44 - Hairdresser
    Wife: Kate Sawyer aged 39
    Children:
    Madeline aged 18 - Dresssmaker
    Agnes aged 17 - Dressmaker
    Alice aged 14 - Dressmaker
    Eugene aged 13
    Sernest aged 7
    Florence aged 5
    George aged 4
    William aged 2
    All above born in Whitechapel
    Servant: George Monkton aged 28 born Weymouth - Hairdresser's assistant

    1891:
    97 Whitechapel High Street
    Head: John Sawyer aged 50 - Perfumer
    Wife: Kate Sawyer aged 48
    Children:
    Eugene aged 22 - Hairdresser
    Alice aged 24
    Ernest aged 18 - Hairdresser
    Florence aged 15
    George aged 14
    William aged 11
    All above born in Whitechapel
    Servant: Annie Whitelock aged 22 born Hastings

    1901:
    97 Whitechapel High Street
    Head: John Sawyer aged 50 - Perfumer
    Wife: Kate Sawyer aged 40
    Children:
    William aged 19 - Perfumer
    All above born in Stepney
    Servant: Edith Lamb aged 31 born Holborn

    1911:
    340 Limes Lea, Bridge Road
    Head: John Sawyer aged 70 born Stepney - Retired perfumer
    Wife: Kate Sawyer aged 68 born City
    Servant: Rose Bowman aged 18

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  • lynn cates
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    Ah!

    Hello Neil. Thanks. That must be why.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Monty
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    Hi Lynn,

    PC Pearces name is actually spelt Pearce throughout his records and census returns.

    Its only that brief mispelling in The Times (12 Oct 88) which, due to the fact its massively referenced to, causes lots of confusion.

    Monty

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  • lynn cates
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    bedlam wing

    Hello Neil. I was thinking the same name. I believe in some versions it was spelled with the "s"?

    Wonder if the PC speculated and his ruminations grew into a family tradition?

    The last end of the alleged perpetrator does not inspire confidence in his veracity.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Chris Scott
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    Originally posted by Iain Wilson View Post
    Do you have an opinion on what he has provided Chris?
    My initial thought was "here we go again" but the Kindle is so low key and so little publicised I found it by accident. Frank writes in a very matter of fact way and asks for assistance in checking out and following up this info.
    The Kindle book is only 77p so he is obviously not in it for the money!
    All the info he gives about Sawyer's life, addresses, trade etc check out. That of course does not make it true - but makes it worth a second look
    Chris

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  • lynn cates
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    checking

    Hello Chris. Thanks for this. I must check into it.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Iain Wilson
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    Do you have an opinion on what he has provided Chris?

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  • Monty
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    Of course, PC Richard Pearce springs to my mind.

    Monty

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  • Chris Scott
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    I don't suppose the documents are provided in some sort of photo form?
    In the Kindle download it is a transcript

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  • Errata
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    I don't suppose the documents are provided in some sort of photo form?

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  • Chris Scott
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    Thanks for the prompt those who messaged me:-)
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hidden-Suspe...5808977&sr=1-1

    Hidden Suspect - The Whitechapel Murders [Kindle Edition]
    Frank Pearse (Author),
    Kindle Price 77pence - that is not a misprint!

    A Completely New and Previously Unpublished Account of the Ripper Murders in Whitechapel in 1888.

    Based on newly revealed documents, oral history and family legend.

    Revealing a hitherto unknown candidate for the most famous Serial-Killer of all time.
    This short book engages the reader in a way no previous account of the Ripper Murders has. The author has taken factual information contained in previously un-revealed archives and has followed leads not previously available.
    The author does not claim to be a professional researcher or an expert in the Ripper Murders. Instead he places these new facts before the reader in the hope that those with an interest in the accounts of the Whitechapel Murders may themselves be able to cast more light on his terrible discoveries.
    If my work in this book prompts the reader to discover more please let me know.


    And no I am not on commission!!!

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