A New Suspect - John Pavitt Sawyer

[Barnaby]

I find it interesting that the fictional book "A Study in Red - The Secret Journal of Jack the Ripper" by Brian L. Porter uses the exact same plot device of the family secret being passed on from father to son.

[Errata]

You know how there is occasionally some detail, or the way something is described that makes you think "Yeah. That's not true at all."

It's the attache case. And it's contents. If he says he has some wacky signed confession, fine. But papers kept in a brown attache case? Presumably in some closet for 130 years? Secrets only being passed on upon the death of the father? Ehhh.... I don't think so. It just sounds terribly... Dan Brown to me. It's not like their aren't ancient secrets in my family. But I found out my Great Uncle married his neice when I was about 13 at dinner. And that was supposed to never be spoken of ever. Enough of a remove, and your family laughs about it over meatloaf.

[lynn cates]

practise makes perfect

Hello Chris. Thanks. I was wondering the same thing.

One "feels" elements of the Masonic conspiracy theories and the Maybrick Diary here.

At least the solution for Polly was original--a practise run.

Cheers.
LC

[Chris Scott]

Hello Chris. Thanks.

One gets the feeling that one could do a bit of research, find a chap from the area (Sawyer)--one who had masonic antecedents, and then write the book.

Did you personally find any evidence that the whole thing could not have been written after researching a bit?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
Of course from just reading the book one cannot say whether or not the tale will stand scrutiny.
The implication from the book as I understood it is that the contents of the attache case - including the handwritten confession - had been handed down through three generations of the family and still exist.
So the crucial question is can the "confession" be produced and examined and will it withstand scrutiny?

[moonbegger]

Hi Chris ,

Thanks for the info , will have to check it out , Now wouldn't that throw the cat amongst the pigeons ..

[The Demon Barber of Whitechapel ]

moonbegger

[lynn cates]

research

Hello Chris. Thanks.

One gets the feeling that one could do a bit of research, find a chap from the area (Sawyer)--one who had masonic antecedents, and then write the book.

Did you personally find any evidence that the whole thing could not have been written after researching a bit?

Cheers.
LC

[Chris Scott]

Hello Chris. I just finished reading this.

I wonder if you or anyone have researched Lister, Hotham or Duberly?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn
Apart from what is in the book - well I looked in the Army list for 1893 and certainly officers of the two more unusual names (Hotham and Duberly) exist
I will see tomorrow what if anything I can find
Chris

[lynn cates]

research

Hello Chris. I just finished reading this.

I wonder if you or anyone have researched Lister, Hotham or Duberly?

Cheers.
LC

[HelenaWojtczak]

Need to get ready to go out but will post it tomorrow if you like, although I may have mentioned it in a PM to you a while back.

Best wishes,
Steve.

Sorry, mate, I will check back thru my PMs.

Helena

[Steven Russell]

Need to get ready to go out but will post it tomorrow if you like, although I may have mentioned it in a PM to you a while back.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[HelenaWojtczak]

He sure was, Helena. Hence my oft repeated but unpopular theory about Abberline, Kosminski, and Chapman.

Best wishes,
Steve.

Apologies for my ignorance, I don't know your theory, despite your repeating it!

[Steven Russell]

He sure was, Helena. Hence my oft repeated but unpopular theory about Abberline, Kosminski, and Chapman.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[HelenaWojtczak]

Wasn't Kosminski a hairdresser?

[GregBaron]

Crazy Masons again....

Another hairdresser! They're all over this case!

Yes Steven, perhaps the women were murdered because he didn't approve of their hairstyles........? Ha


I also read this bargain-basement tome.......it's interesting but apparently I forgot about it rather quickly....

I think I have a natural aversion to anything conspiratorial or Masonic related........I admit this is a weakness of my constitution....

As always, additional research is welcome.......



Greg

[Steven Russell]

Another hairdresser! They're all over this case!