Who are the mostly likely suspects?

[GregBaron]

Poor Toppy...

"The Ripper and the Royals" was published in 1991, and nobody except Richard has ever believed Toppy was Hutch until the signatures episode. And indeed, the whole story stinks fake, and fake seems the main ingredient in Fairclough methodology.
The radio program wouldn't prove anything, quite the reverse perhaps. I mean, in this really by chance that Reg appeared only twice, first time in the mid-70's (ie : heyday of royal theories), and second time in the craziest royal theory ever, between a fake pic of PAV and Abberline diaries ?




I agree Toppy would make a poor ripper. But I'm afraid he makes a poor witness as well.

Well, at least this would prove your nemesis didn't fabricate or dream up his radio program. And Fairclough may be a fabricator also, but does that mean everything he's ever said is nonsense? He who has not fibbed cast the first stone!

Also, we're condemning the solid family man Toppy as a liar without evidence....I myself find his story incredible but what if it's true?

Could someone with this disorder stop at the sound of danger, and run out without completing the sequence?

would he not have been caught, so intent on his own compulsion that he was completely unaware of the world around him?

I don't know. Just asking. If someone has a "compulsion" so strong he's killing and mutilating women, COULD he stop in mid-sequence?

This is a good question curious and speaks again to Jack's mental illness or personality disorder. Whatever he was afflicted with, he managed to have the presence of mind to get away with it well...........hmmm....how many times?....how long does blind luck last?

Originally Posted by Malcolm X View Post
sex no, because loads of booze = Brewer's droop

Speak for yourself.

Good one DVV. I like your sense of humor....


Greg

[The Good Michael]

Jon,

As I said earlier, and others have said perhaps better, Blotchy is obviously (to me) someone Kelly was comfortable and familiar with. I imagine he was a drinking buddy and when he had enough money, a client.

Mike

[Wickerman]

Mike,
Still with it,still fairly well.
I think that unwittingly,Kelly gives a hint as to her midnight companion.Cox has kelly remarking that she(Kelly) is going to have a sing,which she does for about one hour.So it seems that sex is not in her thoughts,at that time,when she enters her room.and was not the reason for taking the male there.So who would accompany her,and perhaps more importantly why? What kind of person would she choose.A stranger seems unlikely,but an aquaintance used to her ways would more likely do so.

So then we must ask why would she take an hour or more out of her time to entertain someone who was not a client?
She could be earning money with someone else. Or, are you suggesting Blotchy was paying her anyway?
As Dave said, "having a song" might have been euphemism, "a sing-song" for "ding-dong", a jolly good romp!

Then again it might have been Cox who chose that phrase so as not to give away the fact that Kelly was using the room as a brothel.

Cox did not admit to bringing men back 'home' but Prater said "they" (no names) did it all the time. These residents might get McCarthy in trouble if they admitted or gave witness to another tenant using their place as a brothel.

Regards, Jon S.

[curious]

Hi Malcolm,

It doesn't make sense to sensible people, and perhaps it doesn't make sense at all. Was JtR sensible? If he had what would nowadays be called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, he would have had to do things in a particular order:
e.g. Throttle, Cut Throat, Mutilate Abdomen, Mutilate Face, Mutilate Limbs, detach Ears.

If (big if) that were the case, he would "not have time" because he had only enough to do the abdominal and facial mutilation and not the next events in the required sequence.

I'm not saying that's how it was, just that it's how it could have been.

Could someone with this disorder stop at the sound of danger, and run out without completing the sequence?

would he not have been caught, so intent on his own compulsion that he was completely unaware of the world around him?

I don't know. Just asking. If someone has a "compulsion" so strong he's killing and mutilating women, COULD he stop in mid-sequence?

[Bridewell]

Ocd

I was not codding dear old Boss when I gave you the tip, you'll hear about Saucy Jacky's work tomorrow double event this time number one squealed a bit couldn't finish straight off. ha not the time to get ears for police. thanks for keeping last letter back till I got to work again.


Jack the Ripper

Couldn't get ears for police, yet you had enough time to gut her instead/ face mutilations etc.... no sorry, this doesn't make sense at all.
i

Hi Malcolm,

It doesn't make sense to sensible people, and perhaps it doesn't make sense at all. Was JtR sensible? If he had what would nowadays be called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, he would have had to do things in a particular order:
e.g. Throttle, Cut Throat, Mutilate Abdomen, Mutilate Face, Mutilate Limbs, detach Ears.

If (big if) that were the case, he would "not have time" because he had only enough to do the abdominal and facial mutilation and not the next events in the required sequence.

I'm not saying that's how it was, just that it's how it could have been.

[lynn cates]

previous meeting

Hello Malcolm. I like your hypothesis of their having met before.

Now, to discover the context.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

sex no, because loads of booze = Brewer's droop

Speak for yourself.

[Malcolm X]

Hello Malcolm. Is there a good reason to believe that MJK knew Blotchy for only 3 hours?

Cheers.
LC

of course not, but i'm guessing that due to her already being drunk, that she was in the pub with him, or had met him close to leaving and he decided to buy more booze to take home, i dont think they met each other out in the street, more likely some time earlier on

if she knew him as as ex, then the residents might have recognised him, this is ok, but definitely not if he's JTR as well, because as JTR he has no idea who might recognise him.... he might be recognised from behind a neighbours window without realising it

as such, i very much doubt that JTR knew her, as someone that visited Millers Court often, only knew her away from this place

[lynn cates]

3 hours

Hello Malcolm. Is there a good reason to believe that MJK knew Blotchy for only 3 hours?

Cheers.
LC

[Malcolm X]

sex no, because loads of booze = Brewer's droop

or if not, it still spoils it, these two were after a good drink; end of story, well maybe only one was !

[DVV]

Or was "singing" a victorian euphemism for what she actually did with Mr Blotchy ?

[Malcolm X]

Mike,
Still with it,still fairly well.
I think that unwittingly,Kelly gives a hint as to her midnight companion.Cox has kelly remarking that she(Kelly) is going to have a sing,which she does for about one hour.So it seems that sex is not in her thoughts,at that time,when she enters her room.and was not the reason for taking the male there.So who would accompany her,and perhaps more importantly why? What kind of person would she choose.A stranger seems unlikely,but an aquaintance used to her ways would more likely do so.

the reason for taking Blotchy home is that he was carrying loads of booze in a bucket and when you're in Binge drinking mode, you dont want to stop till you drop, so you carry on drinking at home.

this could either be a friend or a ``friendly`` stranger, but knowing MJK, I expect that she couldn't care less, because the free booze is far more important to her.

any woman taking a stranger back to her place that she has only known for the past 3 hours, is asking for trouble, then and now, even if he's a paying client, because he could still be a murderer as well.

it's a massive risk that they take, because it's exactly what JTR wants, to be invited in !

[lynn cates]

no sex

Hello Harry. Now you're talking! Sex had NOTHING to do with it.

Perhaps we are allies?

Cheers.
LC

[harry]

Mike,
Still with it,still fairly well.
I think that unwittingly,Kelly gives a hint as to her midnight companion.Cox has kelly remarking that she(Kelly) is going to have a sing,which she does for about one hour.So it seems that sex is not in her thoughts,at that time,when she enters her room.and was not the reason for taking the male there.So who would accompany her,and perhaps more importantly why? What kind of person would she choose.A stranger seems unlikely,but an aquaintance used to her ways would more likely do so.

[DVV]

Hi Greg

If the mysterious radio program is discovered (latest report Lynn?) and our illustrious Mr. Fairclough reveals information that supports Toppy as Hutch

"The Ripper and the Royals" was published in 1991, and nobody except Richard has ever believed Toppy was Hutch until the signatures episode. And indeed, the whole story stinks fake, and fake seems the main ingredient in Fairclough methodology.
The radio program wouldn't prove anything, quite the reverse perhaps. I mean, in this really by chance that Reg appeared only twice, first time in the mid-70's (ie : heyday of royal theories), and second time in the craziest royal theory ever, between a fake pic of PAV and Abberline diaries ?

I believe the case for the Hutchinsonians will be severely diminished.

I agree Toppy would make a poor ripper. But I'm afraid he makes a poor witness as well.