The Elephant Man

[Versa]

rofl the man couldnt lift his head from a pillow! and i think.... he might of been spotted lurching through the streets.

[JTRSickert]

Please excuse my unintentional offense, limehouse.

by the way, no need for the formal "Mr. Sickert." it's not like I'm the real-life Wally. LOl

JT will do just fine

[Limehouse]

Fair enough Mr Sickert, but your theory, mocking or otherwise, included lines such as:

"The guy is very seriosuly deformed, mocked by many as a sideshow freak attraction, no woman wants him"

AND:

[/I][/B]"He kills prostitutes to vent his rage against women and society in general"[I][B]

These are much expressed assumptions about people with disfigurements/disabilities which are stereotypes, maintaining that only 'normal, attractive people' can cope with life!

Ms Cornwell's motive for Sickert being the killer is his so-called 'penal disfigurement/disfunction' and other people HAVE pointed at Mr Merrick as a candidate for JtR based on his disfigurement.

[JTRSickert]

Limehouse,

I was not mocking Merrick or his afflication. i was merely trying to make a humorous comment on the coincidence that he was in London in the same district and time period that JTR was around. I have nothing but sympathy for those that are afflicted with similar illnesses and dohope thay make it well through life.

[Limehouse]

The notion that people who suffer from disfigurement must therefore vent their rage and anger on society is highly insulting and vastly underestimates the courage and dignity of such people. This suggestion, particularly made in humour, is tasteless and insensitive. Please be aware that Mr Merrick was a real person, he has living relatives and there are people walking around today with the same disease that Mr Merrick had - and similar diseases.

You may be surprised to learn that a severely disfigured person known personally to me has no trouble attracting women because he is a deeply enagaging and caring person. He gets on with his life, holds no anger towards anyone (for anger is so destructive) and despite the added burden of physical disability caused by the disease that disfigures him (neurofibromatosis) he has never been out of work.

[Mascara & Paranoia]

Aw, come on mate, leave poor Joseph alone. From what I read about him he seemed like a sweet bloke. Though I am amazed that there hasn't been a movie or book about him being the Ripper by now haha (or is there? o_O).

But on a more serious note, and I know you're joking, but Joseph being the Ripper is almost an impossibility. No offence but I can't imagine any prostitute servicing him, no matter how hard pressed they are for money (I know that sounds horrible but I can't think of a more sensitive way of putting it). That and he would've been spotted or caught in no time. It's just ridiculous to even consider on a serious level (which, again, I know you were joking, but still, some people might actually be daft enough to believe it ).

Let's let the man have some peace in death, eh? (And where the f**k did this heart suddenly appear from! )

[JTRSickert]

JTR was none other than The Elephant Man himself, John/Joseph Merrick! Motive? The guy is very seriosuly deformed, mocked by many as a sideshow freak attraction, no woman wants him, he resides in a hospital (under the care of Dr. Treves); this could account for alleged "medical knowledge; the hospital is in the heart of Whitechapel, same hospital where Openshaw examined the "From hell" kidney and received a Ripper letter. He kills prostitutes to vent his rage against women and society in general and then makes his way back to the hospital, no one suspecting the truth. LOL.