Sir William Gull

[rjpalmer]

I'd assumed that Gull was living in the West End at the time of the murders.

Hi Ms. D.

I think that's been the assumption.

My thought it the same as Herlock's---possibly a little rest and recouperation in the country.

There's an account of Sir William tending an ailing friend in Norwood Green, Ealing on Sunday, November 11th (two days after the Kelly murder) so he wasn't entirely incapacitated before the serious health scare in December.

Of course, the Royal family would supply Gull with an alibi, wouldn't they!?

..but he had Netley to whizz him back and forwards

Duly noted.

[Herlock Sholmes]

And as he only intended to stay there for two months, and that the cutting says that he had ‘taken’ Underhills which was the residence Mr Barclay then it’s reasonable to suggest that he was only renting it. Why rent a house in Surrey for two months? It’s hardly a holiday location. I’d suggest the quiet of being outside of London for health reasons. Perhaps on Doctor’s orders to recover from another stroke seems a plausible possible explanation?

[Ms Diddles]

Interesting find Roger!

I'd assumed that Gull was living in the West End at the time of the murders.

[Herlock Sholmes]

As far as I can tell, the village didn't (and doesn't) have a railway station, so someone traveling to London would first have to take a carriage to Redhill or Godstone.

No railway station Roger but I just checked out the village on Google Earth and saw a bus passing through so Gull would have been ok.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I noticed a comment on another thread where it was assumed that Sir William Gull was living in London (the West End) at the time of the 1888 murders.

Although I can't find any other reference to it, this doesn't appear to have been the case.

According to the Surrey Mirror, sometime in early August 1888, at around the time of the Tabram murder, Gull moved to "Underhills" a country estate outside of the village of Bletchingley. This is roughly 22 miles south of the East End (34 kilometers) and according to the notice Gull intended to live there for two months, which of course would keep him there until early October 1888.

As far as I can tell, the village didn't (and doesn't) have a railway station, so someone traveling to London would first have to take a carriage to Redhill or Godstone.

Good find Roger. I certainly wasn’t aware of this.

[Geddy2112]

Sir William had a long trek to Whitechapel

..but he had Netley to whizz him back and forwards

[rjpalmer]

This is a photograph of "Underhills."




It is now known as the Wychcroft Retreat Centre and Google Maps shows that it about 1.8 miles outside of Bletchingley on a narrow one-lane country road.




Sir William had a long trek to Whitechapel

[rjpalmer]

I noticed a comment on another thread where it was assumed that Sir William Gull was living in London (the West End) at the time of the 1888 murders.

Although I can't find any other reference to it, this doesn't appear to have been the case.

According to the Surrey Mirror, sometime in early August 1888, at around the time of the Tabram murder, Gull moved to "Underhills" a country estate outside of the village of Bletchingley. This is roughly 22 miles south of the East End (34 kilometers) and according to the notice Gull intended to live there for two months, which of course would keep him there until early October 1888.

As far as I can tell, the village didn't (and doesn't) have a railway station, so someone traveling to London would first have to take a carriage to Redhill or Godstone.

[Dan Norder]

Before asking why he shouldn't be considered the Ripper there ought to be some reason to think that he might have been, and there isn't anything other than some claims that don't make any sense from sources that are well known for making things up out of thin air if it suited them. That would seem to be the main reason he's dismissed as a suspect.

[Sam Flynn]

I know Knight's reputation isn't great in the JTR world, but is the "stroke" the main, or only reason why Gull is not considered as a suspect?

Well, Paul, Sir William was almost 72 years old at the time of the murders, and would be dead within two years. Stroke or not, these facts alone make him an extremely unlikely candidate for the Ripper.

[DrPL]

Hi everyone,
I was a member of this forum many years ago and was surprised to find upon looking at the forum that not only was I not recognised, but that many posts had "gone". I suspect that my question has been answered but I don't know for sure:

Sir William Gull has often been dismissed as a suspect because of his stroke before the first murder. But Stephen Knight showed that many others had lived productive lives after such a stroke. I know Knight's reputation isn't great in the JTR world, but is the "stroke" the main, or only reason why Gull is not considered as a suspect?

Best wishes

Paul