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  • GUT
    Commissioner
    • Jan 2014
    • 7841

    #316



    Peer review is not interesting. I want to move beyond that. I want to give you a piece of good evidence. Something that everyone can accept. I want you to get the real killer.
    Funny I was certain that you told us before that you didn't want to find the killer because the world would end or something like that.

    And I thought peer review was at the centre of any real Academic research.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • Pierre
      Inactive
      • Sep 2015
      • 4407

      #317
      [QUOTE=John G;395652][QUOTE=jerryd;395651][QUOTE=Pierre;395648]
      Originally posted by John G View Post

      Did that condition even exist in 1888?
      What is that?

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      • Pierre
        Inactive
        • Sep 2015
        • 4407

        #318
        Originally posted by GUT View Post
        Funny I was certain that you told us before that you didn't want to find the killer because the world would end or something like that.

        And I thought peer review was at the centre of any real Academic research.
        Of course it is. But this is a totally different type of research. You combine historical sources and interpretations with forensic sources and interpretations.

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        • John G
          Commissioner
          • Sep 2014
          • 4919

          #319
          [QUOTE=Pierre;395653]
          Originally posted by Elamarna View Post



          It is impossible to separate history from the historian in some aspects.



          Exactly, Steve. Otherwise there will just be a silly addition to the rest of the candidates.



          Peer review is not interesting. I want to move beyond that. I want to give you a piece of good evidence. Something that everyone can accept. I want you to get the real killer. And then there can be peer review for everything else.



          I donīt know. The truth is to terrible. I think it would be easier to accept a killer like Barnett or Lechmere. Much easier.



          No, I donīt. But I feel sorry for them.



          If I find the last bit of evidence, I will tell the descendants first.



          Yes, what moves it is the hope of finding Jack the Ripper.



          No problem. But today I also realized that if I do not find the source I think I might find, I will have to report this case anyway. I can not take it to the grave. If I did, there will be no chance of solving the case unless someone else finds the same sources and draws the same conclusions.

          Regards, Pierre
          Well this has to be my candidate for melodramatic post of the year! And please don't tell the descendants, as I'm afraid your highly unlikely to be correct.

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          • GUT
            Commissioner
            • Jan 2014
            • 7841

            #320



            Yes, what moves it is the hope of finding Jack the Ripper.
            Yet then you say the ripper world won't want your discovery, like so much you come out with, I do wish you'd make your mind up.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • David Orsam
              *
              • Nov 2014
              • 7916

              #321
              Originally posted by Pierre View Post
              today I also realized that if I do not find the source I think I might find, I will have to report this case anyway.
              It's funny that, Pierre, because I told you a long time ago that you would never find the missing source that you thought you "might find". Looks to me like a sudden realisation has hit you that I was right all along.

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              • Pierre
                Inactive
                • Sep 2015
                • 4407

                #322
                Originally posted by GUT View Post
                Yet then you say the ripper world won't want your discovery, like so much you come out with, I do wish you'd make your mind up.
                I wish so too. It is very difficult right now. My research is in a parenthesis where I have not decided the next step.

                I know there are some people I have to contact and it will perhaps take time, weeks. I need specific data.

                I have to think about the next step.

                And at the same time I want to communicate what I am doing but I canīt. That is the most difficult thing. I am used to discussing my research with people and this is a very isolated situation.

                So I am happy to discuss a small bit of it with you. It means a lot to me.

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                • GUT
                  Commissioner
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7841

                  #323
                  Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                  I wish so too. It is very difficult right now. My research is in a parenthesis where I have not decided the next step.

                  I know there are some people I have to contact and it will perhaps take time, weeks. I need specific data.

                  I have to think about the next step.

                  And at the same time I want to communicate what I am doing but I canīt. That is the most difficult thing. I am used to discussing my research with people and this is a very isolated situation.

                  So I am happy to be discussing a small bit of it with you. It means a lot to me.
                  You mean the last bit of data that was within your grasp a year ago.

                  And your glad to be discussing it when not so long ago you wished. You'd never heard of the case, as I said make your mind up, but then again you seem to keep changing your mind on your area of expertise so why should you make your mind up about anything else.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • GUT
                    Commissioner
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 7841

                    #324
                    Nothing but BS here people move on, move on.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • David Orsam
                      *
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 7916

                      #325
                      Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                      I wish so too. It is very difficult right now. My research is in a parenthesis where I have not decided the next step.

                      I know there are some people I have to contact and it will perhaps take time, weeks. I need specific data.

                      I have to think about the next step.
                      You find the "specific data". So that's your thinking done for you.

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                      • John G
                        Commissioner
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 4919

                        #326
                        Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                        I wish so too. It is very difficult right now. My research is in a parenthesis where I have not decided the next step.

                        I know there are some people I have to contact and it will perhaps take time, weeks. I need specific data.

                        I have to think about the next step.

                        And at the same time I want to communicate what I am doing but I canīt. That is the most difficult thing. I am used to discussing my research with people and this is a very isolated situation.

                        So I am happy to discuss a small bit of it with you. It means a lot to me.
                        Are you winding me up? By the way, just out of interest, purely as an aside, are you aware that grandiose delusions are a symptom of a number of personality disorders?

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                        • David Orsam
                          *
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 7916

                          #327
                          Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                          So I am happy to discuss a small bit of it with you.
                          When are you proposing to start doing this?

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                          • David Orsam
                            *
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 7916

                            #328
                            Originally posted by GUT View Post
                            You mean the last bit of data that was within your grasp a year ago.
                            LOL!

                            Worth repeating.

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                            • Pierre
                              Inactive
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 4407

                              #329
                              [QUOTE=GUT;395661]

                              You mean the last bit of data that was within your grasp a year ago.

                              Is there a point in putting words in my mouth - will something get better by doing so?
                              "Within my grasp" are words I have never written. But I have written that
                              it is probably not impossible to find the last bit of data.

                              And I still think it isnīt impoossible.

                              And your glad to be discussing it when not so long ago you wished. You'd never heard of the case, as I said make your mind up, but then again you seem to keep changing your mind on your area of expertise so why should you make your mind up about anything else.
                              As long as I must continue I am glad I can discuss some of it with you, naturally. And nothing has changed except for one thing since my first post: I have found more evidence.

                              That is also very frustrating.

                              Regards, Pierre

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                              • Pierre
                                Inactive
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 4407

                                #330
                                Originally posted by John G View Post
                                Are you winding me up? By the way, just out of interest, purely as an aside, are you aware that grandiose delusions are a symptom of a number of personality disorders?
                                I am not actually "aware" but I have seen some research about that.

                                Could you enlighten me?

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