Ripper Facts

[Trevor Marriott]

God your an idiot. And not even funny.

Don't you have tee shirts to sell.


It's so obvious your jealous of people who have research skills. You couldn't research yourself out of a paper bag.

It doenst take much research to dispel those wacky theories you keep coming up with

If you had a brain you would be dangerous

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Trevor Marriott]

Some more information on Benjamin Thomas Neal which fits the profile.

What profile ?

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Craig H]

Another beginner question .... where would I find Infirmary records for Benjamin Neal who lived at the above lodging house - so Commercial Road ?

Appreciate any advice

Craig

[Craig H]

Very interesting Craig. Keep it going!
Like I said, you might want to see if he had any kind of criminal record.

Hi Abby
Thanks for this .... sorry may be a rookie question .... where to find criminal record ???

Craig

[Abby Normal]

Epping Forest, perhaps he was a tree surgeon

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

God your an idiot. And not even funny.

Don't you have tee shirts to sell.


It's so obvious your jealous of people who have research skills. You couldn't research yourself out of a paper bag.

[Abby Normal]

Some more information on Benjamin Thomas Neal which fits the profile.

In 1891 C he is a lodger at Charles William Mowl Victoria Home, a lodging house. The Census lists him as a surgeon. Was this lodging house more for poorer people ? Most of the other people staying there were labourers.

The lodging seems inappropriate for a surgeon and could suggest he was unemployed.

Not sure if he was still married. His census records lists him as Single.

In the 1891 Census, his wife Sarah is staying with mother Catherine at Suffolk. Sarah's status is "married".

Benjamin and Sarah had no children.

Any suggestions on where I could find out where Benjamin worked ? Is there online access to a Medical Register ?

Benjamin's father (Thomas) died in 1886.

Benjamin died in 1899 in Staffordshire.

I'm getting a picture of someone with medical / surgical skills who may have been unstable

Craig

Very interesting Craig. Keep it going!
Like I said, you might want to see if he had any kind of criminal record.

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby

I haven't found anything (yet) on whether he had a criminal record. Are you thinking he went to jail after 1889 - hence why no more murders ?

Rgds

Craig

Yes. And perhaps a criminal record before or during the murders.

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Josh

I think that's the one he was living in at 1891 Census.

Makes me think he was a surgeon down on his luck

I'm interested to find out where he worked as a surgeon,

Craig

Epping Forest, perhaps he was a tree surgeon

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Craig H]

Hi Josh

I think that's the one he was living in at 1891 Census.

Makes me think he was a surgeon down on his luck

I'm interested to find out where he worked as a surgeon,

Craig

[Joshua Rogan]

In 1891 C he is a lodger at Charles William Mowl Victoria Home, a lodging house. The Census lists him as a surgeon. Was this lodging house more for poorer people ? Most of the other people staying there were labourers.

Sounds quite progressive compared to some lodging houses;

http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Victoria_Working_Men%27s_Home

[Michael W Richards]

...I found one person who could be of interest Benjamin Thomas Mills Neal, a surgeon at the Charles William Mowl Victoria Home - a working man's home at 39 Commercial Street, Whitechapel (so in the "sweet spot"). This is where George Hutchinson was staying during the killings.

Craig

Just a note that The Victoria Working Mens Home was also hosting Daniel Barnett at the same time, and that the Home offered almost equal proximity to all the Canonical murders.

I would not be surprised if the killer of one or more Canonicals lived there.

[Craig H]

Some more information on Benjamin Thomas Neal which fits the profile.

In 1891 C he is a lodger at Charles William Mowl Victoria Home, a lodging house. The Census lists him as a surgeon. Was this lodging house more for poorer people ? Most of the other people staying there were labourers.

The lodging seems inappropriate for a surgeon and could suggest he was unemployed.

Not sure if he was still married. His census records lists him as Single.

In the 1891 Census, his wife Sarah is staying with mother Catherine at Suffolk. Sarah's status is "married".

Benjamin and Sarah had no children.

Any suggestions on where I could find out where Benjamin worked ? Is there online access to a Medical Register ?

Benjamin's father (Thomas) died in 1886.

Benjamin died in 1899 in Staffordshire.

I'm getting a picture of someone with medical / surgical skills who may have been unstable

Craig

[Craig H]

Hi Abby

I haven't found anything (yet) on whether he had a criminal record. Are you thinking he went to jail after 1889 - hence why no more murders ?

Rgds

Craig

[Abby Normal]

Following on from previous posts, I've been plowing through the 1891 Census on FindMyPast looking for someone:

• Aged 28 - 35 years old (based upon witness statements)
• Living in Whitechapel (based upon geographic profiling and suggested direction of Eddowes / GSG and Stride / Church Lane)
• Has surgical knowledge
• Is Single / living on his own (based upon FBI profile)
  • Is English

I know many will challenge some of these assumptions.
I found one person who could be of interest Benjamin Thomas Mills Neal, a surgeon at the Charles William Mowl Victoria Home - a working man's home at 39 Commercial Street, Whitechapel (so in the "sweet spot"). This is where George Hutchinson was staying during the killings.
Neal was born in Wiltshire 1849 (father a builder). 1881 Census he is a medical student with wife Sarah in Regents Park. He died in 1899 in Staffordshire.
Can anyone find out anything more on Neal ?
Also, is there any way to find out if he was staying at Charles William Mowl Victoria Home in 1888 ?
All the best

Craig

Hi Craig. as I mentioned to you earlier-this is interesting approach. Do we know if he has any criminal record?

[Craig H]

Benjamin Neal (Surgeon)

Following on from previous posts, I've been plowing through the 1891 Census on FindMyPast looking for someone:

• Aged 28 - 35 years old (based upon witness statements)
• Living in Whitechapel (based upon geographic profiling and suggested direction of Eddowes / GSG and Stride / Church Lane)
• Has surgical knowledge
• Is Single / living on his own (based upon FBI profile)
  • Is English

I know many will challenge some of these assumptions.
I found one person who could be of interest Benjamin Thomas Mills Neal, a surgeon at the Charles William Mowl Victoria Home - a working man's home at 39 Commercial Street, Whitechapel (so in the "sweet spot"). This is where George Hutchinson was staying during the killings.
Neal was born in Wiltshire 1849 (father a builder). 1881 Census he is a medical student with wife Sarah in Regents Park. He died in 1899 in Staffordshire.
Can anyone find out anything more on Neal ?
Also, is there any way to find out if he was staying at Charles William Mowl Victoria Home in 1888 ?
All the best

Craig