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  • #16
    Brought over from other thread:

    Thanks Dougie,
    As an ancient ," blind " pro-Druittist, in answer to your request and my offer
    , here is a summary of my "possible- guilt " scenario:
    (1) First cannonical murder was committed on St Cuthberga's Day, 31st
    August.

    St Cuthberga was the patron saint of Wimborne Minster Montague Druitt's
    home town church.Stained glass windows in Wimborne Minster donated by
    the Druitt family include one of St Cuthberga.
    (2) Montague Druitt's funeral was attended by his uncle Mt Homer.A well
    known pig breeder.

    It has sometimes been suggested that JTR had had prior experience at
    ripping open carcases or had medical knowledge.
    The attendance of Mr Homer amongst the very few at MJD's funeral
    suggests a possible closeness to nephew Monty.Could Monty have spent
    his childhood school holidays from boarding school at the large pig farm of
    Uncle Homer? Could he have been given the opportunity to slit open and
    slaughter pigs on these occasions?
    (3) Young middle class men did frequent the music halls and stews of the
    notorious East End in the LVP.It was called "slumming".

    Despite opinions by some posters, middle class professionals and particularly
    red-blooded sporting lads like Druitt, frequently went "up East" for a spot of
    music hall and Cockney pub frivolity.These lads did much drinking. And who
    knows where they drifted off to later in the night? Or early morning?
    As for playing cricket so soon afterwards..There are several serial killer
    cases where the murderer has returned to the cosy familiarity of the
    marital home or gone off to indulge in their regular pursuit, after a night of
    secret mayhem and murder.Why, Mafia gunmen in the U.S. boasted of
    returning to their family's bosom after shooting someone.

    (4) Illogically, I still think the Steve White press story points to Druitt.
    The Dundee Peoples Journal article about Steve White's brief encounter
    with a supposed JTR, despite the best efforts of logical, experienced
    researchers like Grey Hunter to dissuade me,still strikes me as an unusual
    but close description of Montague Druitt. At the time, police were talking
    more about East End emigres as possible murderers. Except of course, the
    doctor suspects.
    (5) Also illogically, I think Mitre Square holds the key to suspecting Druitt.
    Because the local prostitutes thought it was safe to take their clients to
    Mitre Square for some good old "horizontal dancing", this doesn't square
    with the much-vaunted vigilance of coppers on the beat, and ex-policemen
    acting as wharehouse caretakers.Let alone the heavy slumbers of a
    policeman residing on the spot. Somethings wrong with evidence given at
    the Inquest.
    I still think the Foster sketch shows at point "A" the exact spot Steve
    White's PC stood when he came out of the resident PC's house, when he
    hollered out to the night watchman.Having seen the body (marked spot "B"
    on Fosters sketch).

    Enough to be going on with. Hope I haven't tangentised this thread.
    JOHN RUFFELS.

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    • #17
      Hi everyone, I started this thread with a simple question, and just thought I'd pop in here again with a somewhat more involved one. I have read that Druitt was playing in a cricket match on the morning that Annie Chapman was murdered. My memory may be faulty but I think I recall that the match started around ten a.m. and Annie was killed at around 5:30 a.m. with dawn just beginning to lighten the sky. Is it really plausible that Jack the Ripper, after hunting for a victim and not finding one until nearly dawn, then proceeded to do all that was done to Annie, make off with certain parts of her anatomy and then have to figure out what to do with them, come down from the emotional high of the kill as well as cleaning himself up, and then just a few hours after the murder and with NO SLEEP said to himself, "Ok, time to hurry off to my cricket match?"

      I'm an ignorant American, but I understand cricket matches tend to be very long.

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      • #18
        Oops, I see the question I just raised about the cricket match is already addressed on the neighboring thread "Is it plausible that Druitt did it?" Ah well, it is indeed a question that bears serious consideration.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by aspallek View Post

          While the Druitt family was wondering about Montague, they got word that he had gone missing and then of his death. No need to contact authorities about their suspicions now...
          Hi Andy,

          No need, except that the authorities would be left indefinitely to presume the killer was still at large and could strike again at any time. If the family had been prepared to give up one of their own to the authorities (unlike Anderson’s low-class Polish Jews ) and see him dangling at the end of a rope, would they not have been equally public spirited after his early bath, seeking to reassure the police and public as soon as possible that the danger was past?

          Love,

          Caz
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          "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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          • #20
            Hi caz,

            Maybe. But I think it more likely that the family would have assumed the police would soon figure out that the killings had ceased and thus step down their investigation. I think it would have been more important to them to protect the family name that to alert the police and suggest they call off their search. They probably also realized that mere family suspicion would not be enough to call off the investigation, anyway.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kensei View Post
              Oops, I see the question I just raised about the cricket match is already addressed on the neighboring thread "Is it plausible that Druitt did it?" Ah well, it is indeed a question that bears serious consideration.
              Yes it does, but the cricket match didn't start until 11 or 11:30, as I recall, so he would not have had to hurry. It is also worthy of note that he fared poorly in the match. Finally, with a guilty conscience he might have felt the need to participate in the fixture in order to avoid suspicion.

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              • #22
                Surely the point that Dougie is trying to make is that even if someone has been studying JTR for a year, can still be able to create his/her own relevant opinion on the case.

                It has been years that people have been trying to solve this mystery whether its been 50 years to 6 months. The point is that everyone has the ability to make an impact on this mystery.

                I have been studying JTR for years but I find the thoughts and comments given on this forum very interesting no matter how much "research" people have done. - And by the by, I think if people didn't read other peoples books on JTR then there would be very little to talk about. Its how people gain a point of view on the subject and its just as important as your own research.

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