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chris10th July 2006, 09:05 AM
In view of the recent discussions of Druitt I thought it might be worth gathering into one place all the census and BMD (Births, marriages and Deaths) info that we have on him.
Chris
Census and BMD data on Montague John DruittBirth:
1857 Quarter 3
Druitt, Montague John
Wimborne Volume 5a Page 269
1861:
West Street, Wimborne Minster, Dorset
Head: William Druitt aged 40 born Wimborne - Fellow (by Exam) of the Royal College of Surgeons of England
Wife: Ann Druitt aged 31 born Highwick
Children:
William H aged 4
Montague J aged 3
Edward aged 1
All born in Wimborne
Servants:
Jane Foot aged 31 born Wimborne
Mary Dunn aged 24 born Milton
Ann Oxford aged 20 born Cranborne
Elizabeth Dyer aged 13 born Canford Magna
1871:
Winchester College
Pupil:
Montague J Druitt aged 13 born Wimborne, Dorset
1881:
9 Eliot Place, Lewisham, London
Head: George Valentine aged 39 (Unmarried) born Bombay, India - Schoolmaster B.A.
Mother: Louisa Valentine (Widow) aged 66 born Nervis, West India
Assistants:
Mark Francis James Mann aged 25 born Guernsey - Assistant Master B.A.
Montague John Druitt aged 23 born Wimborne - Assistant Schoolmaster B.A.
Pupils also listed
Death:
1889 Quarter 1
Druitt, Montague John aged 31
Brentford Volume 3a Page 65
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Joanna11th July 2006, 10:58 PM
Great idea for a thread Chris
Here's the family of William Druitt in the 1851 and 1871 census returns:
1851: West Street, Wimborne Minster, Dorset.
Head: William Dreutt, aged 30. [Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons].
Mother: Jane Dreutt, aged 59. [Fundholder].
Sister: Jane Dreutt, aged 28. [Fundholder].
Ann Gomer, aged 25. [House Servant].
Mary Shiner, aged 20. [House Servant].
Henry Stickland, aged 15. [Errand Boy].
All born in Wimborne.
1871: Westfield, Redcotts Lane, Wimborne Minster, Dorset.
Head: William Druitt, aged 50, born Wimborne, Dorset. [General Practitioner FRCS].
Wife: Ann Druitt, aged 41, born Shapwick, Dorset.
Children:
Edward Druitt, aged 11.
Arthur Druitt, aged 7.
Edith Druitt, aged 3.
Ethel M Druitt, aged 1 month.
All born in Wimborne.
Henry M Lawrence, aged 26, born Ireland. [Medical Assistant].
Ann Flipp, aged 27, born Spetisbury, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Mary French, aged 21, born Canford Magna, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Anna M Poulsen, aged 20, born Corfe Mullen, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Its interesting to note that in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses the Druitt's are given the address of 'West Street', not Westfield House where it is commonly assumed Montague was born and spent most of his childhood. Daniel Farson in Jack the Ripper (1972) claims that '[A] relative denies...the claim that Montague was born at Westfield, with the revelation that William Druitt built the house for his retirement in about 1875, ten years or so before his death...' Also the Post Office Directory of Dorsetshire (1859) and J.G. Harrod's & Co Postal & Commercial Directory (1865) give William Druitt's address as 'West Street' and 'West Boro'' respectively backing up this mysterious relative's statement.
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cgp1005th August 2006, 12:06 AM
As people still occasionally revive the idea that MJD could have lived at King's Bench Walk rather than in Blackheath, maybe it's worth posting his entry in the 1889 electoral register for the City of London (for which the qualifying date was 31 July 1888):
17968
Druitt, Montague John
[residence] 9 Eliot place, Blackheath
[qualification] Chambers
[address] 9 King's bench walk.
Chris Phillips
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johnsavage5th August 2006, 01:31 PM
Hi Chris,
Many thanks for posting that entry from the City of London electoral roll.
I beleive that the entitlement to vote in City elections is based on having business premises located in the City of London, rather than living there, am I correct?
Rgds
John
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cgp1005th August 2006, 03:09 PM
I beleive that the entitlement to vote in City elections is based on having business premises located in the City of London, rather than living there, am I correct?
I think that's the case today (or at least, the electorate is predominantly qualified by business activities rather than residence), but as far as I know back in 1888 the franchise was determined by the same mixture of property ownership and tenure as elsewhere. Evidently the fact that MJD had chambers qualified him to vote there, even though he wasn't resident.
Chris Phillips
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aspallek12th June 2007, 03:56 PM
Its interesting to note that in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses the Druitt's are given the address of 'West Street', not Westfield House where it is commonly assumed Montague was born and spent most of his childhood. Daniel Farson in Jack the Ripper (1972) claims that '[A] relative denies...the claim that Montague was born at Westfield, with the revelation that William Druitt built the house for his retirement in about 1875, ten years or so before his death...' Also the Post Office Directory of Dorsetshire (1859) and J.G. Harrod's & Co Postal & Commercial Directory (1865) give William Druitt's address as 'West Street' and 'West Boro'' respectively backing up this mysterious relative's statement.
Just to revive this a bit. This makes perfect sense. Westfield House today is at the end of Westfield Close. Presumably, West Street was in the same area. William probably had Westfield House build on property he owned at or near West Street in about 1875. Thus I and others were incorrect when we assumed Westfield House was Montague's birthplace.
Incidentally, Farson apparently says Westfield House is a half mile from Wimborne. If that is so, it is a very short half mile. It might just be a half mile from the Minster church at town's center. Westfield House lies on the route in between the Minster church and Wimborne Cemetery, where the Druitt's lie buried.
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In view of the recent discussions of Druitt I thought it might be worth gathering into one place all the census and BMD (Births, marriages and Deaths) info that we have on him.
Chris
Census and BMD data on Montague John DruittBirth:
1857 Quarter 3
Druitt, Montague John
Wimborne Volume 5a Page 269
1861:
West Street, Wimborne Minster, Dorset
Head: William Druitt aged 40 born Wimborne - Fellow (by Exam) of the Royal College of Surgeons of England
Wife: Ann Druitt aged 31 born Highwick
Children:
William H aged 4
Montague J aged 3
Edward aged 1
All born in Wimborne
Servants:
Jane Foot aged 31 born Wimborne
Mary Dunn aged 24 born Milton
Ann Oxford aged 20 born Cranborne
Elizabeth Dyer aged 13 born Canford Magna
1871:
Winchester College
Pupil:
Montague J Druitt aged 13 born Wimborne, Dorset
1881:
9 Eliot Place, Lewisham, London
Head: George Valentine aged 39 (Unmarried) born Bombay, India - Schoolmaster B.A.
Mother: Louisa Valentine (Widow) aged 66 born Nervis, West India
Assistants:
Mark Francis James Mann aged 25 born Guernsey - Assistant Master B.A.
Montague John Druitt aged 23 born Wimborne - Assistant Schoolmaster B.A.
Pupils also listed
Death:
1889 Quarter 1
Druitt, Montague John aged 31
Brentford Volume 3a Page 65
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Joanna11th July 2006, 10:58 PM
Great idea for a thread Chris
Here's the family of William Druitt in the 1851 and 1871 census returns:
1851: West Street, Wimborne Minster, Dorset.
Head: William Dreutt, aged 30. [Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons].
Mother: Jane Dreutt, aged 59. [Fundholder].
Sister: Jane Dreutt, aged 28. [Fundholder].
Ann Gomer, aged 25. [House Servant].
Mary Shiner, aged 20. [House Servant].
Henry Stickland, aged 15. [Errand Boy].
All born in Wimborne.
1871: Westfield, Redcotts Lane, Wimborne Minster, Dorset.
Head: William Druitt, aged 50, born Wimborne, Dorset. [General Practitioner FRCS].
Wife: Ann Druitt, aged 41, born Shapwick, Dorset.
Children:
Edward Druitt, aged 11.
Arthur Druitt, aged 7.
Edith Druitt, aged 3.
Ethel M Druitt, aged 1 month.
All born in Wimborne.
Henry M Lawrence, aged 26, born Ireland. [Medical Assistant].
Ann Flipp, aged 27, born Spetisbury, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Mary French, aged 21, born Canford Magna, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Anna M Poulsen, aged 20, born Corfe Mullen, Dorset. [General Servant Domestic].
Its interesting to note that in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses the Druitt's are given the address of 'West Street', not Westfield House where it is commonly assumed Montague was born and spent most of his childhood. Daniel Farson in Jack the Ripper (1972) claims that '[A] relative denies...the claim that Montague was born at Westfield, with the revelation that William Druitt built the house for his retirement in about 1875, ten years or so before his death...' Also the Post Office Directory of Dorsetshire (1859) and J.G. Harrod's & Co Postal & Commercial Directory (1865) give William Druitt's address as 'West Street' and 'West Boro'' respectively backing up this mysterious relative's statement.
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cgp1005th August 2006, 12:06 AM
As people still occasionally revive the idea that MJD could have lived at King's Bench Walk rather than in Blackheath, maybe it's worth posting his entry in the 1889 electoral register for the City of London (for which the qualifying date was 31 July 1888):
17968
Druitt, Montague John
[residence] 9 Eliot place, Blackheath
[qualification] Chambers
[address] 9 King's bench walk.
Chris Phillips
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johnsavage5th August 2006, 01:31 PM
Hi Chris,
Many thanks for posting that entry from the City of London electoral roll.
I beleive that the entitlement to vote in City elections is based on having business premises located in the City of London, rather than living there, am I correct?
Rgds
John
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cgp1005th August 2006, 03:09 PM
I beleive that the entitlement to vote in City elections is based on having business premises located in the City of London, rather than living there, am I correct?
I think that's the case today (or at least, the electorate is predominantly qualified by business activities rather than residence), but as far as I know back in 1888 the franchise was determined by the same mixture of property ownership and tenure as elsewhere. Evidently the fact that MJD had chambers qualified him to vote there, even though he wasn't resident.
Chris Phillips
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aspallek12th June 2007, 03:56 PM
Its interesting to note that in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses the Druitt's are given the address of 'West Street', not Westfield House where it is commonly assumed Montague was born and spent most of his childhood. Daniel Farson in Jack the Ripper (1972) claims that '[A] relative denies...the claim that Montague was born at Westfield, with the revelation that William Druitt built the house for his retirement in about 1875, ten years or so before his death...' Also the Post Office Directory of Dorsetshire (1859) and J.G. Harrod's & Co Postal & Commercial Directory (1865) give William Druitt's address as 'West Street' and 'West Boro'' respectively backing up this mysterious relative's statement.
Just to revive this a bit. This makes perfect sense. Westfield House today is at the end of Westfield Close. Presumably, West Street was in the same area. William probably had Westfield House build on property he owned at or near West Street in about 1875. Thus I and others were incorrect when we assumed Westfield House was Montague's birthplace.
Incidentally, Farson apparently says Westfield House is a half mile from Wimborne. If that is so, it is a very short half mile. It might just be a half mile from the Minster church at town's center. Westfield House lies on the route in between the Minster church and Wimborne Cemetery, where the Druitt's lie buried.
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