The Laying Out

[Robert]

A very nice story, amusingly told. Let's hope this comes out OK.

[Natalie Severn]

I look forward to seeing this Ap. Race certainly sounds like he had found something on Thomas Cutbush.

[Cap'n Jack]

So, Inspector Race, from Lloyds, June 28th 1896:

There is a nice portrait of Race in this issue, but the file is too large to attach.
I'm hoping Robert can manipulate it -seeing he opened the door - and bung it up here.
It does appear that Race may have had a number of knives in his possession at this time period.

[Cap'n Jack]

So we have Thomas Cutbush with a knife with the seven stars on it, a double bladed weapon, and we must remember that his face was all blotchy and red from the mercury potions he applied.
He knew his bible.
From Revelations 1:16:

'And he had in his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth went a twoedged sword and his countenance was as the sun shining in his strength.'

[Natalie Severn]

Natalie, no doubt about it being Race, and Cutbush in this article, the 'Chinese knife' confirms it. For I have shown conclusively that the seven stars on Cutbush's knife determine its Chinese origin - see other threads for further details.

Yes thanks Ap.I remember some of these posts-
best

[Robert]

I seem to remember - and I might be wrong here - but I seem to remember about 5 years ago there was an article posted by Chris Scott, which also mentioned JTR being in Dartmoor. I do remember that there was an illustration of the murderer bending down and holding a knife. This "Dartmoor" article I think was from abroad, and may of course have been a rehash of the Reynolds item. I just can't remember the name of the paper.

[Cap'n Jack]

Natalie, no doubt about it being Race, and Cutbush in this article, the 'Chinese knife' confirms it. For I have shown conclusively that the seven stars on Cutbush's knife determine its Chinese origin - see other threads for further details.

[Natalie Severn]

So this is the famous Inspector Race Robert?.I think I remember reading that Macnaghten was troubled by Race hanging on to the knife belonging to Cutbush for more than three years? Race must have been the man who provided the "incontravertible" evidence on which the Sun Newspaper in 1894 based its assertion that Thomas Cutbush was Jack the Ripper.......and which Macnaghten hurried to deny in his 1894 memorandum,naming instead Druitt ,Kosminski and Ostrog as three people being "more likely" than Cutbush.Well its a tricky thing when a JtR suspect happens to be a nephew of a police chief.Mind,just because Macnaghten sought to fudge the whole question by placing Cutbush fourth in line doesnt make Thomas Cutbush either more or less likely to have been Jack the Ripper.

[Cap'n Jack]

Thanks Robert, it is that pesky 'Dartmoor' reference again.
My opinion is that Race was under pressure, or misquoted, and he meant, of course Broadmoor.
It is , again of course, highly unlikely that a person sentenced to HMP in a London court would end up in Dartmoor rather than Broadmoor.

[Robert]

This is the item in question.

[Stephen Thomas]

Thanks for trying AP

The entry for Race in the A-Z is very offhand but intriguing.

[Cap'n Jack]

Unfortunately I can't access Reynold News at the moment, but it is worth looking again at the highly important Lloyd's article that Robert found where the defence team for Cutbush made the following statement:
'In certain police circles (and here they obviously mean Inspector William Race)... there is a growing feeling that it may in the end prove to be in some way connected with the darker and more tragic mysteries of the East End.'
They of course meant the Whitechapel Murders.

[Stephen Thomas]

It was Inspector William Race, L Division [Lambeth], who gave interviews about the Whitechapel Murders to Reynolds News, 18th February 1894.

Hi Simon

What does he say in these interviews? I just checked the entry for him in the A-Z and it's very vague.

[Natalie Severn]

Thanks for that info Simon,
There must have been a few raised eyebrows in the force over the antics of Thomas Cutbush and his escape from the asylum,starkers except for his shirt tails flying out behind him as he sped through town with that great crowd of Londoners on a wild goose chase behind him . What a handful he must have been for Inspector Charles Cutbush-and the rest of Scotland Yard come to that! Charles needed Thomas acting out like that like he needed that hole in his head!

[Natalie Severn]

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