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  • Natalie Severn
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 4863

    #16
    So this is the famous Inspector Race Robert?.I think I remember reading that Macnaghten was troubled by Race hanging on to the knife belonging to Cutbush for more than three years? Race must have been the man who provided the "incontravertible" evidence on which the Sun Newspaper in 1894 based its assertion that Thomas Cutbush was Jack the Ripper.......and which Macnaghten hurried to deny in his 1894 memorandum,naming instead Druitt ,Kosminski and Ostrog as three people being "more likely" than Cutbush.Well its a tricky thing when a JtR suspect happens to be a nephew of a police chief.Mind,just because Macnaghten sought to fudge the whole question by placing Cutbush fourth in line doesnt make Thomas Cutbush either more or less likely to have been Jack the Ripper.

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    • Cap'n Jack
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      • Feb 2008
      • 1497

      #17
      Natalie, no doubt about it being Race, and Cutbush in this article, the 'Chinese knife' confirms it. For I have shown conclusively that the seven stars on Cutbush's knife determine its Chinese origin - see other threads for further details.

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      • Robert
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5163

        #18
        I seem to remember - and I might be wrong here - but I seem to remember about 5 years ago there was an article posted by Chris Scott, which also mentioned JTR being in Dartmoor. I do remember that there was an illustration of the murderer bending down and holding a knife. This "Dartmoor" article I think was from abroad, and may of course have been a rehash of the Reynolds item. I just can't remember the name of the paper.

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        • Natalie Severn
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 4863

          #19
          Originally posted by Cap'n Jack View Post
          Natalie, no doubt about it being Race, and Cutbush in this article, the 'Chinese knife' confirms it. For I have shown conclusively that the seven stars on Cutbush's knife determine its Chinese origin - see other threads for further details.
          Yes thanks Ap.I remember some of these posts-
          best

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          • Cap'n Jack
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            • Feb 2008
            • 1497

            #20
            So we have Thomas Cutbush with a knife with the seven stars on it, a double bladed weapon, and we must remember that his face was all blotchy and red from the mercury potions he applied.
            He knew his bible.
            From Revelations 1:16:

            'And he had in his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth went a twoedged sword and his countenance was as the sun shining in his strength.'

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            • Cap'n Jack
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              • Feb 2008
              • 1497

              #21
              So, Inspector Race, from Lloyds, June 28th 1896:

              There is a nice portrait of Race in this issue, but the file is too large to attach.
              I'm hoping Robert can manipulate it -seeing he opened the door - and bung it up here.
              It does appear that Race may have had a number of knives in his possession at this time period.

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              • Natalie Severn
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 4863

                #22
                I look forward to seeing this Ap. Race certainly sounds like he had found something on Thomas Cutbush.

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                • Robert
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5163

                  #23
                  A very nice story, amusingly told. Let's hope this comes out OK.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Natalie Severn
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4863

                    #24
                    Oh Well, Inspector Race was certainly up for it!

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                    • Cap'n Jack
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                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1497

                      #25
                      Thanks for that, Robert.
                      My understanding is that Inspector Race was transferred to 'H' Division in about 1893 or 4, and this may have given him access to files on the Whitechapel Murders which fuelled his suspicion that Thomas Cutbush was the Whitechapel Murderer, given his previous and local knowledge of Thomas on his own patch.

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                      • Robert
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5163

                        #26
                        Hi AP

                        He would also have been able to question McCarthy, who had been on the case.

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                        • Robert
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5163

                          #27
                          Here is another item. Western Mail Feb 16th 94.
                          Attached Files

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                          • Robert
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5163

                            #28
                            Just for jolly, Swanson had a daughter, Ada, who would have been ten at the time of the above article. I don't know how many other 10-year-old daughters of top officers there were.

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                            • Robert
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5163

                              #29
                              Or sons, for that matter.

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                              • Cap'n Jack
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                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1497

                                #30
                                Nicely done, Robert, and a very interesting little report you found there.
                                It appears to confirm my suspicion that 'Dartmoor' is being used instead of 'Broadmoor'.
                                For the 'Chinese knife' confirms it must be Race, but surely he knew that the owner of said Chinese knife was in fact in Broadmoor... as he obviously obtained the permission for the Sun reporters to go there?
                                A very rare thing, as I have pointed out before.

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