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  • #31
    George Yard Stables was roughly at now 145 Cable Street.

    George Yard Buildings was roughly at now 89 Whitechapel High Street.

    About a 20 minute walk from each other.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

      No, this George Yard was in Cable Street.
      Thanks Joshua, one rabbit hole filled quickly.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Astatine211 View Post
        George Yard Stables was roughly at now 145 Cable Street.
        Almost....in 1888 the yard was behind 145 Cable Street, which was the George Tavern (hence the name). Coincidentally, I believe Charles Lechmere's mother would be living next door at 147 in 1889. The entire block was I think demolished to make way for a railway coal depot a few years later, and now appears to be trees. Which seems like progress.

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        • #34
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          • #35
            Originally posted by etenguy View Post

            Thanks Joshua, one rabbit hole filled quickly.
            Warren ?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

              Almost....in 1888 the yard was behind 145 Cable Street, which was the George Tavern (hence the name). Coincidentally, I believe Charles Lechmere's mother would be living next door at 147 in 1889. The entire block was I think demolished to make way for a railway coal depot a few years later, and now appears to be trees. Which seems like progress.
              Indeed she was, Joshua. You’ll notice the premises was a shop.

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                Originally posted by DJA View Post
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                It was a Charringtons coal depot. Above is a photo of it.

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                • #38
                  For completeness, this is the Goad map showing the coal depot.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                    Indeed she was, Joshua. You’ll notice the premises was a shop.
                    Do you know if any of her previous homes were also shops?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
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                      It was a Charringtons coal depot. Above is a photo of it.
                      Thanks Gary, nice pic.
                      Not railway related then.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                        Thanks Gary, nice pic.
                        Not railway related then.
                        Owned by the Railway but leased by Charringtons I would imagine.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

                          Owned by the Railway but leased by Charringtons I would imagine.
                          It begs the question; why would a brewery need so much coal? Is that what they made porter from?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                            Do you know if any of her previous homes were also shops?
                            Not as far as I’m aware. I don’t think there were any shops in Mary Ann Street for instance.

                            Joe F is on the 1889 electoral register at Mary Ann Street, but that would presumably have been compiled towards the end of 1888. Then in Feb, 1889 he’s in the workhouse recorded as destitute, and by December of that year he was suffering from dementia so advanced that it was recorded as a cause of death. Then there’s the anomaly of the two Cable Street shops he’s connected to at the time of his death and the likelihood that that part of Cable Street may have been in a pretty run down state prior to its demolition to make way for the coal depot. A peek at the PO directory for 1889/90 might be revealing.

                            I’m not saying this is the case, but on the face of it there could have been plenty of scope for CAL to store/dismember a body within a few hundred yards of Pinchin Street.

                            Last edited by MrBarnett; 09-10-2021, 01:10 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

                              It begs the question; why would a brewery need so much coal? Is that what they made porter from?
                              Very droll! Same family, different business, as I’m sure you’re aware.

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                                In this post-war photo of Princes/Swedenborg Square you can just glimpse the coal depot through the open space that had once been the notorious Shovel Alley (to the right of the house with 5 chimneys). The wall in the left foreground was around the churchyard of Liz Stride’s Swedish Church.



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