Hanbury Street Back yard photo

[drstrange169]

"If Richardson were on the top of the steps he might not have seen the body."

Pretty hard not to have seen the body from the top, bottom or middle of the stairs.

[Stewart P Evans]

Sketch

The below sketch of the scene of the murder appeared in the Pall Mall Gazette at the time. It seems to be pretty accurate and may give a better idea of the back door, the steps and the cellar entrance.

[drstrange169]

This was the picture I was thinking of with the wooden covering.
Looks like if you lent out of the door you would be able to see the cellar door.

[Magpie]

Thank you both for the drawings. Interesting view of the covers, but comparing the drawings to the photos, neither of them convey how deeply recessed the cellar door seems to be.

[Magpie]

"If Richardson were on the top of the steps he might not have seen the body."

Pretty hard not to have seen the body from the top, bottom or middle of the stairs.

Hi drstrange.

However, if John's original story is true, there would have been no reason to open the door all the way, so it's entirely possible that he would't have seen a body in the position where Chapman was found

1) Go to back door
2) open back door just enough to lean out and look down and to the right.
3) Use xray and infra-red vision to make sure the lock was intact
4) close door and head off to the market.

[Rixa]

Pretty hard not to have seen the body from the top, bottom or middle of the stairs.

Hello drstrange169 - I don't think think that I've seen that photo look so good before. Is is published somewhere in that much detail? I also wonder when it was taken.

[Brenda]

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I always tend to go a little easy on Richardson. Sometimes I am in my own thoughts so deeply that a hundred million dollars could be laying in the yard and I would miss it. Especially first thing in the morning like that. And before coffee??

However, if there had been as much problem with people using that yard for "immoral purposes", then it seems like he might would have been a bit more vigilant in looking around and making sure all was as it should be.

[Shelley]

Yes, you are right John. I remember seeing it on the wall at the Ten Bells.

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Stewart,

Here is a video of James Mason in the 1967 film ' The London Nobody Knows ' showing 29 Hanbury Street as it was when Annie Chapman was found before the demolition of the house in the 1970's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GWvAhHdx_8

btw when i was in London a few years ago, i couldn't find the ' Ten Bells ' does it still exist? Or has it had either a name change or been demolished as well?

[John Bennett]

btw when i was in London a few years ago, i couldn't find the ' Ten Bells ' does it still exist? Or has it had either a name change or been demolished as well?

It certainly does. 84 Commercial Street, right by Christ Church.

http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Ten_Bells

[Shelley]

Thanks John,

It's a nice pic of the pub...

I'll have to visit London again sometime and find it, look for the old parts in case there has been any refurbishments

[Edward]

Eerie Hanbury backyard photo

Hello All -

I have no idea where I found this photo. I find it very unsettling to say the least. Could it be real or did someone have fun with Photoshop? It looks suspiciously like the photo in Post #31 above, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's not real.

Edward

[Phil Carter]

Hello Edward,

I can only hope it is real..because if it isn't and someone has played photoshop with it, I find their taste in fun rather unpalatable.

regards

Phil

[PC Roadnight]

Well, the tricycle is 1950s at the earliest, child's clothing looks much later (70s?) So I think you're right. The last warped image of 2011 I hope

[Rixa]

Not a blade of grass has changed direction, so the tot is definitely added on top of the same image. New scan though - different contrast, less dust on the scanner, ever so slightly rotated to the left. Where is the back yard image from?

[Brenda]

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A budding young Ripperologist.