The Streets Of London

[Bridewell]

The Motivation to Lie

What is the motivation to lie?. Why would he insist it was not there?.

Hi Scorpio,

If he didn't check the stairwell as he should have done at 2.20am the motivation to lie would be concealment of his negligence.

PC Long would not have been expected to note every piece of rubbish on the streets of an over populated slum.

The body of Liz Stride had been found well over an hour before, about half a mile away on the Division where he was patrolling. The body of Kate Eddowes had been discovered 35 minutes previously, in the small hours of the morning, and in a city where there were no motor vehicles on the streets and where a police whistle had been blown - about 400 yards away. If Pc Long didn't know something serious had happened that night he must have been operating in a time warp. If the 'piece of rubbish' was a sizeable piece of bloodstained apron (which it was) then, yes, he should have noted it IMHO.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Scorpio]

I continue to wonder why we are unwilling to accept that Alfred Long simply didn't notice the scrap of apron on his earlier pass by the stairway. This was, after all, a man who was dismissed the following summer for being drunk on duty.

What is the motivation to lie?. Why would he insist it was not there?.
PC Long would not have been accepted to note every piece of rubbish on the streets of an over populated slum.

[The Grave Maurice]

I continue to wonder why we are unwilling to accept that Alfred Long simply didn't notice the scrap of apron on his earlier pass by the stairway. This was, after all, a man who was dismissed the following summer for being drunk on duty.

[Monty]

Add in the stop search policy of the Police, as demonstrated by DC Halse Scorpio, and youd have to question if he would stay out on the streets for that period.

Monty

[Scorpio]

The established chronology of events on the 30th Sep state that Catherine Eddowes was last seen alive at 1.35 AM, and found dead at 1.45 AM in Mitre Sq. A piece of Eddowes bloody apron was found at Goulston St by PC Alfred Long at 2.55, but PC Long stated that he had patrolled the same spot at 2.20 and the apron piece was not present. The time differential between the murder and the aprons appearance in Goulston St can be no less than 35 minutes and possibly as much as approximately 70 minutes, but the distance between Mitre Sq and Goulston St can be covered in a fraction of the lower time estimate of 35 minutes and this suggests the apron piece was not dropped as the killer immediately vacated the neighbourhood. So what was the killer doing in this time?. The killer was not skulking in the passage way or stairwell of 118/119 Ghoulston St, because PC Long would have seen him. Did the killer pace around in the streets with the police descending on the area after the discovery of Eddowes body?.Did the killer make use of a public house or club, assuming they were open, with a bloody rag and human body parts stowed somewhere on his person. The possibility exists that the killer found sanctuary within the area, roughly within 30 minutes walk,or 1 and 1/2 miles at maximum. If you take the 70 minute upper limit and remove 8 minutes traversing time between Mitre Sq and Goulston St, then you have 62 minutes to play with, or 30 minutes to find sancuary,a few minutes to spare, and 30 minutes remaining to return to Goulston street just before PC Long arrives.