East End Photographs and Drawings

[Septic Blue]

It was the bay window on the right as you enter the pub. I have to be honest, and admit that the dead centre placing of the spire, and the lamp, was all just down to a fluke. I happened to sit at the right place in the pub, and rested my camera on the table in front of me in just the right place.

I can believe that the pub is in Shadwell. The area I think of as Wapping, is about ten minutes walk in a westerly direction from the Prospect of Whitby.

Thanks, Andrew!

[Chris Scott]

Two pics from the 1970s
The first is Puma Court and the second is Wilkes Street

[tnb]

I love that Puma Court picture, Chris. Can I ask where you found it? I don't suppose it's out of copyright...

In all seriousness I do need to start picking people's brains about out of copyright pictures and maps for my documentary sometime soon, but there is, as they say, a time and place for everything.

The Prospect of Whitby, by the way, is definitively in Shadwell. However a lot of people believe anything south of the (Ratcliff) Highway to be Wapping, unofficially.

[Chris Scott]

Hi trevor
I've sent you a PM about this
regards
Chris

[The Grave Maurice]

The Prospect of Whitby, by the way, is definitively in Shadwell.

You mean Wapping Wall isn't in Wapping? No wonder people get confused.

[Phil Carter]

Alleged photo of Dorset St

Hello all,

Can anybody tell me anything about the origin of this photo?

Found it on this site..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=442332&page=8

best wishes

Phil

[Chris Scott]

I don't know about the origin but I believe it first appeared in Andy and Sue Parlour's book
Chris

[Phil Carter]

Hello Chris,

Many thanks.

I haven't (shamefully) got that one...

So if Andy or Sue are popping in, I would love to hear from whence it came?

Or indeed if anyone else knows?

best wishes

Phil

[Chris Scott]

I've just checked my copy of the book and the photo is on page 54. It is captioned:
Rare photo of Miller's Court.
I can't see any attribution as to where the photo came from.

[Phil Carter]

Hello Chris,

Many thanks again. Interesting photo. The "window" centre, top of picture, left hand side of alleyway... is it a window?
Reminds me of one of those old pub signs.

best wishes

Phil

[The Grave Maurice]

On the facing page, the Parlours have the classic shot of Dorset Street which, they say, is facing west toward the Providence Row Refuge, instead of east toward Commercial Street, so I wouldn't put a lot of faith in their knowledge of photographs. Besides, it doesn't even look like Miller's Court.

[The Good Michael]

It couldn't possibly be Miller's Court unless the overhead passageway was removed. The first door on the right would have to be the way into the stairwell next to Kelly's room. I just don't see this as a possibility for the Court from any angle.

Mike

[Phil Carter]

Hello Mike,

I didn't like to judge on first thought, but admit that this is my view as well. The "Inn sign"/window made me wonder infact, and the length of the "open" area in the alleyway seemed different than the Miller's Court. I would like to know the origin of this photo.


best wishes

Phil

[The Good Michael]

It's possible there were some changes made to the Court and that this photograph is a reversed copy. That's what I see as the only way this could be Miller's Court based upon the various schemes of it that have cropped up over the years.

Cheers,

Mike

[m_w_r]

Hi all,

With the obvious exception of the Dorset Street houses, the buildings in Millers Court were two storeys high (ground floor and first floor [UK]; first floor and second floor [US]). The buildings in the picture are higher.

Regards,

Mark