Census

[Ashkenaz]

Ashkenaz -

With reference to your reply to my post (above).

I should probably apologise for the immoderate tone of my post. I enjoy Casebook, and at its best it is a venue not only for new research, but for new lines of research, and you are quite right to point out that, purely on the basis of mathematics, suspect-level enquiries cannot afford to rule out any possibilities.

I think that my mathematics still apply, however, to the scope of your enquiry. I can only wonder at the sheer scale of a task which proposes to survey the vast population of Spitalfields over two censuses. If, for example, you were to find an individual in the 1881 census who demonstrably still resided in the area in 1891, but who had in the meantime sustained an injury which would obviously incapacitate a would-be murderer, then this might be interesting in view of the various arguments about the cessation of the Whitechapel series. Given that the census enumerators were sometimes interested in such information, you might just find someone to whom these details applied, who may in turn be worth putting on your list of people who could have been Jack the Ripper. How you then go about proving your thesis I do not know. On the question of demonstrated local residence and sudden and permanent incapacity, you will probably know about Edward Buchan and Thomas Barnardo, to name but two. Druitt, of course, is a suspect whose familiarity with the East End still provokes debate.

As you might be able to tell, I am interested in the censuses - they are a goldmine of information for the social historian. I can only wish you well with your "drudgery", as you put it (I thought this had something to do with lexicography, but there you go), and, of course, the drudgery of the investigation into the Yorkshire Ripper ended eventually in the conviction of the murderer. His arrest though, owed more to happy accident than to the (literally) tons of paperwork which had accumulated on the floor of the investigation room - to find Jack the Ripper, I would suggest that you might need a stroke of fortune of significantly greater proportions.

Good luck with your research (meant sincerely).

Regards,

Mark

Hi Mark

Think nothing of it. This must be the most frustrating investigation ever. It is not surprising that people are sometimes a litle short tempered.

As I'm sure you'll agree,we should leave no stone unturned. My idea is a long shot, but it might just be that the geographical profiler is correct in his theory. If this is so, and jtr was offending long before 1888, it might just be that he was indeed living in one of those streets, and was recorded on the census of 1881.

A long shot yes. But just imagine if he was ! And one of just 183 people !

It was indeed a happy accident that took the Yorkshire Ripper, but sometimes long shots come in. Even at 14000000/1 someone usually wins the UK lottery each week !

Good luck

[Chris Scott]

The parameters you chose were males aged 18-50 at the time of the murders (1888)
Therefore, exclude all males born before 1838 and after 1870.
This is a 32 year range with a mid point at 1854
The nearest I can get to this (with variances of +- 10 or +- 20 years) is 1860 +- 10 years, which would include all males born from 1850 to 1870, i.e. those aged 18 to 38 at the time of the murders. This gives 280 males for Flower and Dean Street.
Those born earlier can to some extent be included with a parameter of 1844+- 5 years, those born from 1839 to 1849. This gives 148 males for Flower and Dean Street.
Therefore the total number of males in Flower and Dean Street in 1881 born between 1839 and 1870 would be 280 + 148 = 428.

For Thrawl Street, the number of males born between 1839 and 1849 is 75. For those born between 1850 and 1870, the figure is 56. The total is therefore 131.

For Fashion Street, the situation is a little more complex in that there was also a Fashion Street in Bermondsey and one in Southwark. The street of that name in which we are interested was covered by two districts, Christ Church and Spitalfields. The count for those born 1839 to 1849 for these districts is as follows:
Christ Church - 29
Spitalfields - 15
For those born 1850 to 187, the firgures are as follows:
Christ Church - 97
Spitalfields - 69
Therefore the total for 1881 for Fashion Street is 29 + 15 + 97 + 69 = 210

The final total (all males born 1839 to 1870 living in Flower and Dean Street, Thrawl Street and Fashion Street in 1881) is 428 + 131 + 210 = 769

[Chris Scott]

Here are the four listings for Fashion Street:

Spitalfields - males born 1839 - 1849
Barnet Berkosker Betsy abt 1849 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Samuel Cohen Sophia abt 1849 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Levy Davis Esther abt 1841 The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Simon De Jong abt 1841 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Alexander Isaacs Rachel abt 1848 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Marks Levy Betsy abt 1848 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Levy London Leah abt 1841 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Lewis Marks Sarah abt 1841 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
George Martin Ann abt 1841 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Isaac Pried Rachel abt 1843 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Abel Rudorski Betsy abt 1849 Russia Head Spitalfields, London
David Savill Esther abt 1841 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Michael Savolski Jane abt 1842 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Hyman Simmonds Leah, Rebecca abt 1848 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Moses Van Gelder Susan abt 1843 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Spitalfields: Males born 1850 to 1870
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation RESIDENCE
Mark Abrahams Samuel, Jane abt 1866 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Elias Barentz Fanny abt 1853 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Abraham Baruch Daniel, Sarah abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
David Baruch Daniel, Sarah abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Isaac Baruch Daniel, Sarah abt 1860 Amsterdam (F), The Netherlands Son Spitalfields, London
Jacob Baruch Daniel, Sarah abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Louis Baruch Daniel, Sarah abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Lazarus Breske Leah abt 1856 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Jacob Clipie Anna abt 1851 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Abraham Cohen abt 1855 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Abraham Cohen Sarah abt 1855 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Harris Cohen Raphael, Rose abt 1865 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son Spitalfields, London
Harris Cohen Esther abt 1853 (F), Germany Head Spitalfields, London
Jacob Cohen abt 1863 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Louis Cohen abt 1866 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Simon Cohen Raphael, Rose abt 1870 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son Spitalfields, London
Barnet Davis Amelia abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Barny Davis Levy, Esther abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Emanuel Davis Levy, Esther abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Jacob Davis Levy, Esther abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Joseph Davis Amelia abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Samuel De Jong abt 1864 London, London, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
Timothy Donoghue Mary abt 1851 Holborn, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Morris Foster abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Visitor Spitalfields, London
Barnet Freedman Sarah abt 1853 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Solomon Friezer abt 1852 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Shrierl Goldberg Jane abt 1851 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Jacob Goldstein Harris, Rachel abt 1866 Poland Son Spitalfields, London
John Goodwin Richard, Annie abt 1869 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Richard Goodwin Richard, Annie abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Edward Gordon Alice abt 1860 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Aaron Green Jane abt 1851 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Joseph Havies Francis abt 1862 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
George Hickson Annie abt 1853 Aldgate, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Hyman Isaacs Alexander, Rachel abt 1866 Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Hyman Lachman abt 1862 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Abram Levy Marks, Betsy abt 1870 London, London, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Casper Levy abt 1866 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Harris Levy abt 1858 Russia Boarder Spitalfields, London
Woolf Levy abt 1850 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Brother Spitalfields, London
Michael Lipman Eliza abt 1851 Mile End, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Henry London Levy, Leah abt 1870 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
David Lyons Elizabeth S. abt 1854 The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Samuel Marks Solomon, Millie abt 1865 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Solomon Marks Millie abt 1853 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Woolf Marks Abby, Rachel abt 1851 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Harris Markwitz abt 1851 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Marks Mightingale Jane abt 1858 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Morris Moscow Esther abt 1851 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
Gershwin Nathan Simon, Rachel abt 1868 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Marks Nathan Simon, Rachel abt 1866 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
John Nesling William, Louisa abt 1869 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Morris Nyertryer Jane abt 1852 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
James R. Passmore Clara abt 1850 Halberton, Devon, England Head Spitalfields, London
Louis Peller Abraham abt 1862 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Simon Peller Abraham abt 1866 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Hyman Samuels Milly abt 1850 (F), Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Jacob Savolski Michael, Jane abt 1870 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Louis Savolski Michael, Jane abt 1867 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Solomon Seigel Leah abt 1858 Poland Head Spitalfields, London
Jacob Simmonds Hyman, Rebecca abt 1868 (F), Poland Son Spitalfields, London
Abraham Symon David, Miriam abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Lewis Symon David, Miriam abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Abram Van Gelder Moses, Susan abt 1864 (F), The Netherlands Son Spitalfields, London
Joseph Van Gelder Moses, Susan abt 1866 London, London, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Charles Van Vliet abt 1863 (F), The Netherlands Brother Spitalfields, London
John Van Vliet Henrietta abt 1857 (F), The Netherlands Head Spitalfields, London
William Waterlow Anne M. abt 1858 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Hyman Zuyag abt 1862 (F), Poland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Christ Church: Males born 1839 to 1849
Mark Abraham Betsy abt 1843 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Morris Akker Esther abt 1843 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Solomon Blits Hannah abt 1847 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Hyams Cohen Hannah abt 1843 (F), Russia Head Christ Church, London
Simon Cohen abt 1848 (F), The Netherlands Lodger Christ Church, London
Isaac Davis Rebecca abt 1847 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Denssdag Jane abt 1848 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Martin Depies Rachel abt 1841 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Richard Elliott Matilda abt 1842 B Green, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Barend Friedman Sarah abt 1849 (Bs), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Emanuel Greenboam Kate abt 1843 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Solomon Haringman Rebecca abt 1842 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Mark Hertsbourne Rachel abt 1845 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Thomas Higgins Caroline abt 1849 St Georges East Head Christ Church, London
Solomon Jackshere Betsey abt 1845 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Solomon Jacobs Annie abt 1845 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Harris Levy Sarah abt 1848 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
George Mills Ellen abt 1845 London, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Thomas Moss Mary Ann abt 1849 London, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Henry Nargle Caroline abt 1849 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Samuel Osborne Ellen M. abt 1841 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Poons abt 1846 (F), The Netherlands Servant Christ Church, London
John Quaintrell Mary abt 1842 B Green, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Henry Rees Deborah abt 1847 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Harris Speckerman Rebecca abt 1841 (F), Poland Brother (Head) (Head) Christ Church, London
Thomas Thompson Eliza abt 1842 England Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Ventura Julia abt 1843 The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Jacob Vogel Fanny abt 1845 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Israel Whaeslte Millie abt 1846 Poland Head Christ Church, London
Christ Church: Males born 1850 to 1870
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation RESIDENCE
Louis Akker Morris, Esther abt 1869 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Judah Bannett Betsy abt 1858 Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Hyman Banuch David, Leah abt 1864 Spitalfield, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Brown Leah abt 1856 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
John Burton Matilda abt 1857 B Green, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Samuel Caster Henry, Catherine abt 1861 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
William Cissell Margaret abt 1851 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Charles Clarke Lizzie abt 1858 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Aaron Cohen Isaac, Elizabeth abt 1867 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Cohen Isaac, Elizabeth abt 1862 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Harris Cohen Hyams, Hannah abt 1868 (F), Russia Son Christ Church, London
Hyman Cohen Samuel, Henrietta abt 1861 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Louis Cohen Samuel, Henrietta abt 1856 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Philip Cohen Isaac, Elizabeth abt 1860 Spitalfields Son Christ Church, London
Solomon Cohen Abraham, Sophia abt 1867 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Woolf Cohen Isaac, Elizabeth abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Aaron Coon Joseph, Celia abt 1865 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Jacob Coon Joseph, Celia abt 1869 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Samuel Coon Joseph, Celia abt 1860 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Moses Coronel Aaron, Kitty abt 1862 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Samuel Coronel Aaron, Kitty abt 1864 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Zacharia Coronel Aaron, Kitty abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
William Darlington Ann abt 1850 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Benjamin Davis Isaac, Rebecca abt 1868 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Solomon Davis Isaac,
Rebecca abt 1867 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Eizer Meyer, Sophia abt 1853 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Morris Eizer Meyer, Sophia abt 1860 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Woolf Eizer Meyer, Sophia abt 1855 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Charles Elliott Richard, Matilda abt 1865 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Richard Elliott Richard, Matilda abt 1862 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Robert Elliott Richard, Matilda abt 1869 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Galinsky Morris, Cecily abt 1860 (F), Russia Son Christ Church, London
David Galinsky Morris, Cecily abt 1863 (F), Russia Son Christ Church, London
Isiah Galinsky Morris, Cecily abt 1857 (F), Russia Son Christ Church, London
David Gold Abraham, Rebecca abt 1865 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Morris Gold Esther abt 1858 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Morris Goldstein Samuel, Janie abt 1868 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Hyman Grasinsky Esther abt 1859 (F), Russia Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Greenberg Sarah abt 1851 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Haringman Solomon, Rebecca abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
David Haringman Solomon, Rebecca abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Isaac Haringman Solomon, Rebecca abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Harris Samuel, Sarah abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Ioninbourn Solomon, Fanny abt 1864 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Barnett Ioninbourn Solomon, Fanny abt 1853 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
David M. Jackshere Solomon, Betsey abt 1863 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Harris Jackshere abt 1863 (F), Poland Uncle Christ Church, London
Samuel Jacobs Solomon, Annie abt 1870 Wchapel, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Benjamin Jonas Ohab abt 1859 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Samuel Joseph Esther abt 1850 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Harris Klein Jacob,
Hannah abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Sam Klein Jacob, Hannah abt 1861 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Solomon Klein Jacob, Hannah abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Harris Lagatshesski Rebecca abt 1858 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Joseph Lautenberg Marks, Pauline abt 1866 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Philip Lautenberg Marks, Pauline abt 1869 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Joseph Levy abt 1860 (F), Russia Visitor Christ Church, London
Barret Ludbenovitch Debnah abt 1852 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Samuel Marks Rachel abt 1852 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Israel Merberg Jane abt 1854 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Paul Michalausky abt 1853 (F), Poland Boarder Christ Church, London
George Mullier Emanuel, Janet abt 1865 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Isake Mullier Emanuel, Janet abt 1859 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Simon Mullier Emanuel, Janet abt 1868 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Barnet Myers abt 1856 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Boarder Christ Church, London
Samuel Osborne Samuel, Ellen M. abt 1868 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Baznett Park Isaac, Esther abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Joseph Park Isaac, Esther abt 1866 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Moses Park Isaac, Esther abt 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Solomon Park Isaac, Esther abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Morris Parten Edward, Betsy abt 1857 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Solomon Parten Edward, Betsy abt 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Isaac Pelser Bloomer abt 1853 (F), The Netherlands Head Christ Church, London
Hyman Peterchosky Isaac, Rachel abt 1870 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Morris Peterchosky Isaac, Rachel abt 1868 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Jacob Polack Henry, Phaele abt 1863 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
John Quaintrell John, Mary abt 1861 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Thomas Quaintrell John, Mary abt 1865 B Green, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
David Rees Henry, Deborah abt 1867 Lambeth, Surrey, England Son Christ Church, London
Isaac Rees Henry, Deborah abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Abraham Robesky Eve abt 1851 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Jacob Roose abt 1861 (F), Poland Servant Christ Church, London
Lewis Rosenthal Mary abt 1857 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Abraham Rosenthall Sarah abt 1851 (F), Poland Head Christ Church, London
Eleazear Ryner abt 1861 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Nephew Christ Church, London
Barnett Shulman Marks, Fanny abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Michael Shulman Marks, Fanny abt 1870 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Jacob Silver Lewis, Hannah abt 1862 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
Lazarus Speckerman Harris, Rebecca abt 1869 (F), Poland Son Christ Church, London
George Standen Sarah abt 1869 Lambeth Son Christ Church, London
Gordon Van De Wouds Benjamin, Laartze abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Jacob Van De Wouds Benjamin, Laartze abt 1863 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
Joseph Ventura Abraham, Julia abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Judah Ventura Abraham, Julia abt 1869 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Emanuel Welstan Moses abt 1860 (F), The Netherlands Son Christ Church, London
John Wetenigh John, Susan abt 1862 London, London, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Lewis Zealander abt 1857 Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London

[Chris Scott]

Thrawl Street: Males born 1839 to 1849

David Adams abt 1847 Lambeth Spitalfields, London
William Adams abt 1848 Woolwich Spitalfields, London
Thomas Adeof Sarah abt 1846 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Robt. Attwall abt 1847 Mile End Head Spitalfields, London
Robert Austin Sarah abt 1849 St Lukes Head Spitalfields, London
Edward Bacon abt 1845 Shoreditch Head Spitalfields, London
G. W. Banern abt 1846 Green Hill, Kent, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Bates abt 1845 Brentwood, Essex, England Spitalfields, London
Alexander Baxter Isabel abt 1844 Slanksale St City Head Spitalfields, London
Henry Bell abt 1842 (City) Head Spitalfields, London
William Blake Mary abt 1841 Head Spitalfields, London
John Bond Harriett abt 1849 Son Spitalfields, London
Samuel Brickley Esther abt 1844 Kent, England Head Spitalfields, London
George Brown Ann abt 1840 London, London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
R. Brown abt 1847 Bethnal Green Spitalfields, London
M. Burdon abt 1839 Cork, Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
Benjamin Callow Phoebe abt 1845 Bethnal Green Head Spitalfields, London
John Castey abt 1849 Head Spitalfields, London
S. Chalesstor abt 1839 Ratcliff Head Spitalfields, London
John Clark Eliza abt 1844 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Clifton abt 1842 Manchester Head Spitalfields, London
John Wm. Cobele Elizabeth abt 1845 (City Road) Head Spitalfields, London
Francis Coil Agnes abt 1845 Bethnal Green Head Spitalfields, London
James Dasbytone abt 1849 Cripplegate Head Spitalfields, London
M. Davis abt 1848 Romsey, Hampshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Wm. Dennis abt 1839 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
M. Edwards abt 1841 Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Samuel Evans Annie abt 1847 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
George Fagen Julie abt 1842 Shoreditch Head Spitalfields, London
A. Fenner abt 1839 Gt Barrow Head Spitalfields, London
John Gammon Ellen abt 1848 London, London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Joseph Hames abt 1840 Aldgate Head Spitalfields, London
Roland Hanson abt 1845 Aldgate Head Spitalfields, London
L. Hardway abt 1839 London, London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Harrison abt 1841 Head Spitalfields, London
Richard Howard Margret abt 1841 Mile End Head Spitalfields, London
James Hughes abt 1840 Southampton Head Spitalfields, London
James Hurley Catherine abt 1841 Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
Alfred John abt 1844 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
Peter Johnson abt 1839 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
James Justin Annie abt 1849 Lambeth Head Spitalfields, London
Jack Kennedy abt 1849 Spitalfields Head Spitalfields, London
John King abt 1849 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Alfred Lalley abt 1845 Hamstead Head Spitalfields, London
William Lambeth abt 1843 Stratford, Essex, England Spitalfields, London
John Larkin abt 1847 Hackney Head Spitalfields, London
Thos. Lawler abt 1842 Sheerness Head Spitalfields, London
William Lawless Annie abt 1841 Head Spitalfields, London
William Lawrence abt 1839 Oxfordshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Leach abt 1839 Birmingham Head Spitalfields, London
Joseph Leach abt 1840 Limehouse Spitalfields, London
Thos. Ledstone abt 1841 Cheshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Edward Lipple abt 1845 St Leonards, Sussex, England Head Spitalfields, London
McBray abt 1842 East Wick, Hertfordshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
McCasey abt 1847 Liverpool Head Spitalfields, London
McOfarrow abt 1839 Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
Peter Meyform abt 1839 Amsterdam (F) Head Spitalfields, London
W. Middleton abt 1848 Colchester Spitalfields, London
Wm. Morris abt 1841 Highbury Head Spitalfields, London
John Murphy abt 1849 Head Spitalfields, London
Geo. Phillips abt 1839 St Georges E Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Pipe abt 1839 Spitalfields Head Spitalfields, London
Robt. Prim abt 1848 Bethnal Green Head Spitalfields, London
Edward Russell Emma abt 1839 Scotland Head Spitalfields, London
M. Rutherford abt 1841 Highgate Head Spitalfields, London
Dennis Shannon abt 1848 Lambeth Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Smith abt 1847 Westminster Head Spitalfields, London
Edward Stanley abt 1841 St Lukes Head Spitalfields, London
Wm. Wade abt 1839 Scotland Head Spitalfields, London
Jarvis Wait abt 1843 Northamptonshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Welch Mary abt 1847 Hackney Head Spitalfields, London
George West Annie abt 1843 Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas White abt 1841 Brentwood, Essex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Henry Whiting abt 1844 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Thos. Williams abt 1842 Whitechapel Spitalfields, London

Thrawl Street - males born 1850 to 1870
John Aiken abt 1854 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Wm. Alf abt 1851 Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
James Baker abt 1853 Bow Head Spitalfields, London
George Bowles Annie abt 1857 Essex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Arthur Brickley Samuel, Esther abt 1865 Son Spitalfields, London
William Brickley Samuel, Esther abt 1869 Son Spitalfields, London
Thos. Broodle abt 1857 St Lukes Spitalfields, London
J. Burrels abt 1855 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Richard Burrels abt 1859 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
William Burton John, Elizabeth abt 1851 St Georges E Son Spitalfields, London
Thomas Callinger abt 1862 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
James Carthy abt 1862 Dublin, Ireland Spitalfields, London
Chas.Alfd. Cobele John Wm., Elizabeth abt 1865 Whitechapel Son Spitalfields, London
Henry Cobele John Wm., Elizabeth abt 1867 Whitechapel Son Spitalfields, London
John Wm. Cobele John Wm., Elizabeth abt 1869 Whitechapel Son Spitalfields, London
Wm.Jno.Henry Cobele John Wm., Elizabeth abt 1863 Whitechapel Son Spitalfields, London
J. Cobern abt 1859 Whitechapel Spitalfields, London
James Coburn Robert, Elizabeth abt 1865 Bromley, Kent, England Son Spitalfields, London
John Coburn Robert, Elizabeth abt 1867 Bromley, Kent, England Son Spitalfields, London
Ernest Cole abt 1862 Lancaster Head Spitalfields, London
John Cole abt 1851 Cork, Ireland Spitalfields, London
George Frost Charles, Eliza abt 1867 Son Spitalfields, London
U. Gollison abt 1851 Whitechapel Spitalfields, London
John Green Ellen abt 1853 Aldgate Head Spitalfields, London
Thos. Green abt 1853 Homient Spitalfields, London
Thos. Hale abt 1857 Bristol Spitalfields, London
John Harris abt 1861 London, London, Middlesex, England Single Spitalfields, London
John Harris abt 1861 London, London, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
R. Hunt abt 1851 Bethnal Green Head Spitalfields, London
John Hurley James, Catherine abt 1866 Spitalfields Son Spitalfields, London
Alexander Johnston Margaret abt 1866 Son Spitalfields, London
Peter Jones abt 1853 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Geo. Landell abt 1858 Spitalfields Spitalfields, London
Frank Larkin John abt 1867 Spitalfields Son Spitalfields, London
John Lawrence William abt 1865 Stepney Son Spitalfields, London
Patt Leary abt 1853 Cork, Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
George Lindon G. abt 1865 Son Spitalfields, London
Patrick MacFachin Eliza abt 1853 London, London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Michal Mack Emma abt 1853 Spitalfields Head Spitalfields, London
McWylay abt 1859 Lanarkshire, Scotland Head Spitalfields, London
M. C. Osborn abt 1856 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
Garnet Porfar Caroline abt 1858 Whitechapel Head Spitalfields, London
Charles Rainer Sarah abt 1866 Spitalfields Son Spitalfields, London
Thomas Rainer Sarah abt 1869 Spitalfields Son Spitalfields, London
James Ray abt 1852 St Georges, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Geo. Shooling abt 1852 Shoreditch Spitalfields, London
Edward Smith abt 1859 Romford, Essex, England Spitalfields, London
John Smith abt 1855 Mile End Spitalfields, London
Richard Smith Sarah abt 1853 Head Spitalfields, London
David Starling Mary abt 1851 Head Spitalfields, London
Harry Stevens Maria abt 1851 Bethnal Green Head Spitalfields, London
Wm. Thomson abt 1852 Mile End Head Spitalfields, London
John Thrend Margret abt 1856 Crown St Lower White Head Spitalfields, London
Josh. Ward abt 1852 Newcastle On Tyne Head Spitalfields, London
George Welch John, Mary abt 1867 Son Spitalfields, London
John Wood abt 1857 Southwark Head Spitalfields, London

[Chris Scott]

Flower and Dean Street - Males born 1850 to 1870

Saml. Fitzpa??. abt 1851 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Geo. Adam abt 1858 Wales Lodger Spitalfields, London
Steve Adams abt 1860 Hackney Lodger Christ Church, London
Henry G. Adey Charles, Jane abt 1868 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
John Alexander abt 1861 Aldgate, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
William Alexander abt 1851 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Anderson abt 1852 Worthing, Sussex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Anderson abt 1859 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Andrews abt 1857 Surrey, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Andrews abt 1860 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Askett abt 1856 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
T. Bailey abt 1857 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Baker abt 1859 Surrey, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
James Banger abt 1863 (In Prison Ens) Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Barker abt 1851 B Green, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Michael Barrett abt 1860 Islington, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Richard Barrett abt 1851 Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
M Beareek abt 1870 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Beech abt 1862 Essex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Frank Belsham abt 1853 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Berry abt 1864 Hackney, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
David Birman abt 1864 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
James Bowler abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Box abt 1858 Buckinghamshire, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Brain abt 1857 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Samuel Brain abt 1864 St Georges, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Brenner Elizabeth abt 1856 Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Brian abt 1857 Ireland Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
George Brooks abt 1850 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Brooks abt 1861 Mile End Lodger Christ Church, London
Fred Brown abt 1855 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Mathew Brown abt 1852 Kent Rd, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Brown abt 1852 Southampton, Hampshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Brown abt 1850 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Bryan abt 1859 Kent, England Christ Church, London
Henry Bryant abt 1862 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alf Bucker abt 1865 Finsbury Lodger Christ Church, London
John Buckley abt 1862 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Bum abt 1857 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Arthur Burgess abt 1852 Reading, Berkshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Burke Mary abt 1853 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
William Campbell abt 1850 Woolwich, Kent, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Patrick Carroll abt 1852 Cork, Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
J Chapman abt 1850 Ireland Boarder Spitalfields, London
Henry Clark abt 1861 Stepney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Fred Clarke abt 1862 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Clarke Elizabeth abt 1850 Cornwall, England Head Spitalfields, London
Alfred Coate abt 1852 Southwark Lodger Christ Church, London
William Cobb abt 1853 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Michael Cockings abt 1864 (In Workhouse Ens) Lodger Spitalfields, London
Isaac Cohen abt 1851 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Cohlinn abt 1854 Shoreditch Lodger Christ Church, London
James Cole abt 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
William Cole abt 1859 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Michael Collins abt 1858 (In Army Ens) Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Connelly abt 1852 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Conner abt 1852 Paddington Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Henry Conolly abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Tritton Cooling abt 1853 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Richard Coome abt 1852 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Cooney abt 1854 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
William Cooper abt 1857 Norfolk, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Joseph Cowell abt 1859 St Georges, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Cowlyn abt 1863 London City of, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
H.C. Crane Catherine abt 1852 Hackney, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Crawley abt 1862 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
William Cross abt 1860 Lancashire, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Cummings B.. abt 1855 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Geo Cunningham abt 1850 Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Curley abt 1857 Poplar Lodger Christ Church, London
William Curley abt 1858 Poplar Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Daniel Davis abt 1857 Essex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Robert Davis abt 1850 Scotland Lodger Christ Church, London
John Dawson abt 1853 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Day abt 1863 Dartford, Kent, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Day abt 1857 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Geo. Dennis abt 1850 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Dickson abt 1858 London, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Joseph Donavan abt 1857 Wapping, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Jack Donivan abt 1851 Norfolk, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
William Donnelly abt 1853 Stepney, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Pat Donovan abt 1850 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Chas Doubbe abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Patrick Dove Ann abt 1857 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Driscol abt 1858 Shoreditch Lodger Christ Church, London
George Driver abt 1861 London, London, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
John Duffy abt 1851 Spitalfields Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Fred Durrant abt 1852 At Sea Lodger Christ Church, London
Michel Edwards abt 1856 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Edward Eley abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Mr Ellis Mrs abt 1853 Alysbury, Buckinghamshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Mr Evans Mrs abt 1852 Lewes, Sussex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Henry Fisher abt 1858 Poplar Lodger Christ Church, London
John Fisher abt 1860 Stepney Lodger Christ Church, London
Henry Fitzmorris abt 1855 Sussex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Arthur Flanders William, Catherine abt 1870 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Tom Flannigan abt 1850 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Flappitt abt 1851 Whitchapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Fletcher abt 1858 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Flynn Timothy abt 1867 Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
Daniel Foley abt 1856 Wapping, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
William Ford Maggie abt 1855 Stepney, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
Frdr. Foster abt 1852 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Charles Fox abt 1855 Brighton, Sussex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas France abt 1855 Little Hampton, Sussex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Chas. Fraser Matilda abt 1851 Berkshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Richard Fraser abt 1866 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Freeman abt 1852 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Freeman abt 1859 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Fuller abt 1857 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Gadd Trezer abt 1850 Poplar, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Frederick Gehringer abt 1855 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Brother (Head) (Head) Spitalfields, London
Jacob Gleisinger Kate abt 1855 (F), Germany Head Spitalfields, London
Patrick Gorman abt 1855 Woolwich, Kent, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Green Georgina abt 1858 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
William Green abt 1861 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Frederick Grimes abt 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
Tom Groves abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Gurney abt 1859 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Haddcock abt 1861 Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Hailsden abt 1850 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Hale abt 1861 Whitechapel Lodger Christ Church, London
George Harding Sarah abt 1853 Yorkshire, England Head Christ Church, London
Thomas Harkell abt 1851 Wales Lodger Spitalfields, London
Geo Harper abt 1854 Scotland Boarder Spitalfields, London
George Harper abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
George Harris abt 1857 Kent, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Harry Harris abt 1862 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Harris abt 1853 B Green Lodger Christ Church, London
John Hart abt 1855 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Isaac Harvey abt 1868 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Son (Lodger's Son) Christ Church, London
Thomas Hayes abt 1861 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Jeremiah Hearly abt 1851 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Heath abt 1853 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Patsy Hennesay abt 1858 Ireland Boarder Spitalfields, London
William Henry abt 1865 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Hill abt 1853 Shoreditch Lodger Christ Church, London
James Hillis abt 1861 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Edward Holden abt 1855 Birmingham Lodger Christ Church, London
Joseph Howard abt 1860 Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
John Hunt abt 1859 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Joseph Isaacs abt 1851 Aldgate, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Arthur Jackson abt 1855 Stratford, Essex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Jackson abt 1862 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry James abt 1853 Birmingham Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Daniel Jamieson abt 1857 Essex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Harry Johnson abt 1858 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Richd. Johnson abt 1856 W Chapel, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
Thomas Johnson abt 1857 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Johnson abt 1858 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
A. Jones abt 1860 Derbyshire, England Christ Church, London
Edward Jones abt 1856 Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Jones abt 1850 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Tom Jones abt 1857 Boston, Lincoln, England Christ Church, London
William H. Jones abt 1852 Aldgate, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
George Keeling abt 1855 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Knight abt 1855 Ilford, Essex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Lambert abt 1861 Brighton, Sussex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Ledlow Hannah abt 1860 L'Pool, Lancashire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Tom Lewis abt 1854 Bermondsey Lodger Christ Church, London
Peter Leyork abt 1862 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Lincoln abt 1853 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Charles Lutt abt 1857 Stepney Lodger Christ Church, London
Davis Mahoney abt 1862 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Maloney abt 1855 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Manson abt 1856 Kingsland, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Daniel Maray Mary abt 1853 Ireland Head Spitalfields, London
Henry Marcham abt 1853 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Marney abt 1855 Spitalfields Lodger Christ Church, London
Alexander Mason abt 1852 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Michael McHorn abt 1851 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Andrew McQuillen abt 1860 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James McShure abt 1853 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Miller abt 1851 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Peter Mitchell abt 1863 Islington, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Mitchell Margaret abt 1853 London, City of, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Daniel Moore C., Susan abt 1855 Ldn., Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Isaac Moore Mary abt 1852 Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
Patrick Morgan abt 1850 Bristol, Somerset, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Mulony abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Neal abt 1861 Bishopsgate, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Neale abt 1856 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Daniel O Connor abt 1857 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Owan abt 1865 Durham, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Francis Phillips abt 1855 Westminster, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
Thomas Philpot Charlotte abt 1851 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
William Pinney abt 1851 London, City of, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
S. Prynallt abt 1855 Islington, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Pullen abt 1858 Lincoln, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Rafferty abt 1852 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Uriah Rainburd abt 1857 Bethnal Grn, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
James Raine abt 1863 Wapping, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Rawbone abt 1858 Lambeth, Surrey, England Head Spitalfields, London
Walter Rearder abt 1856 St Georges E Lodger Christ Church, London
Richard Reddin Susannah abt 1853 Dover, Kent, England Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Rice abt 1856 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Henry Riley abt 1866 Bristol, Somerset, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Arthur Roberts abt 1861 Mile End Lodger Christ Church, London
Arthur Roberts abt 1859 Spitalfields Lodger Christ Church, London
David Roberts abt 1857 Hoxton Lodger Christ Church, London
George Roberts Elizabeth abt 1851 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
James Robins abt 1850 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Robins Sarah abt 1850 London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
James Rogers abt 1861 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
John Rogers abt 1857 Spitalfields Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Rogers abt 1863 London, City of, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Henry Rose abt 1860 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alexander Ross abt 1854 Lambeth Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Round abt 1859 St Georges, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Rugan abt 1860 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
George Sagenly abt 1862 St Lukes Lodger Christ Church, London
John Sale abt 1854 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
William Sampson abt 1853 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Shaw abt 1852 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Spitalfields, London
John Shea abt 1861 Finsbury, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Shea abt 1856 Finsbury, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Morris Sheen abt 1863 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
John Shepherd abt 1862 Poplar, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Fredk. Shipley abt 1852 St Giles Lodger Christ Church, London
James Shorlock Mary abt 1861 W Chapel, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
William Shorlock Mary abt 1863 W Chapel, Middlesex, England Son Christ Church, London
George Sims abt 1859 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Skinnner abt 1861 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Edward Slade abt 1859 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Slade abt 1850 London, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
James Slater abt 1851 Mile End N T Lodger Christ Church, London
Edwin Smith abt 1851 Liverpool Lodger Christ Church, London
George Smith abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Smith abt 1852 Limehouse Lodger Christ Church, London
James Smith abt 1851 Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Smith abt 1853 Kent, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Smith abt 1853 St Pancras Lodger Christ Church, London
Sam. Smith abt 1856 L'Pool, Lancashire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Simon Smith abt 1851 Suffolk, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Smith abt 1852 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
Thos. Spring abt 1856 Petersham, Surrey, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Thomas Stevanson abt 1853 Wales Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Stevens abt 1857 Lambeth, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Stock abt 1852 Yorkshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Sullivan Emma abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Danl. Sullivan abt 1850 Godstone, Surrey, England Lodger Christ Church, London
James Sullivan abt 1857 Lincoln, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Mike Sullivan abt 1855 Ldm, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Patrick Sullivan abt 1854 Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Tailow abt 1860 Bath Lodger Christ Church, London
Fred Tarleton abt 1869 Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Taylor Mary abt 1859 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
John Taylor abt 1863 Holborn, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Taylor abt 1863 Middlesex, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Thompson abt 1853 Poplar, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Joseph Thompson abt 1855 Southwark Lodger Christ Church, London
Samuel Thompson abt 1853 Lambeth, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Thompson abt 1853 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Tuck abt 1863 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Veale abt 1855 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Andrew Walker abt 1864 Surrey, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Barry Walker abt 1859 London, London, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
George Walker abt 1853 Kent, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Joseph Walls abt 1855 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Walsh abt 1858 Middlesex, England Head Christ Church, London
William Ward abt 1850 Plymouth, Devon, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
William Watson abt 1851 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Andrew Wells abt 1851 Long I Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Welsh abt 1862 London, London, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
Joe Wenlock abt 1851 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George White abt 1851 Chatham, Kent, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
John White abt 1854 Manchester Lodger Christ Church, London
George Wiggins abt 1857 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Wilkinson abt 1856 Manchester Lodger Christ Church, London
Fredk. Williams abt 1856 Manchester Lodger Christ Church, London
John Williams abt 1859 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Willis abt 1856 Aldgate, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Fredr. Wilson abt 1851 (F), United States Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Wilson abt 1861 B Green Lodger Christ Church, London
Daniel Wilton Bridget abt 1869 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
John Wiltshire abt 1861 Bromley Lodger Christ Church, London
George Wood Susan abt 1859 Shadwell, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Wood abt 1859 Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Samuel Wray James, Catherine abt 1858 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Spitalfields, London
Alex Yorke Ada abt 1857 Scotland Head Spitalfields, London

[Chris Scott]

Flower and Dean Street - Males born 1839 to 1849

George Albert abt 1844 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Ames abt 1848 Cripplegate Lodger Christ Church, London
William Answill abt 1841 Ponders End Christ Church, London
Thomas Baker abt 1844 Kent, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Charles Beans abt 1842 Cambridgeshire, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Tom Billing Mary abt 1844 London, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Blacker Hannah abt 1848 Llandivals, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Spitalfields, London
Tom Bontif abt 1848 Hull Christ Church, London
Edward Bradshaw abt 1842 London City, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Joseph Brenan abt 1841 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Chas Bright abt 1841 Ldn, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Bromnan abt 1848 Stepney, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Brooks Susan abt 1846 L/Pool, Lancashire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Brooks abt 1839 Bromley Lodger Christ Church, London
James Brown abt 1849 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Brown abt 1843 (B S), At Sea Lodger Christ Church, London
Richard Brown abt 1843 Shoreditch Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Brown abt 1845 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Brown abt 1841 Norfolk, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Bruce Mary abt 1845 St Lukes, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
James Bryan abt 1841 Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Buckle abt 1840 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
John Bull abt 1841 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
James Burke abt 1843 London City of, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Charles Burnshaw abt 1849 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Bush abt 1839 America Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Callaghan Mary Ann abt 1844 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Chapman abt 1844 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Collier abt 1846 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
W. Connery abt 1844 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Connoly abt 1846 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
James Connor abt 1842 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Cox abt 1845 Limehouse Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
John Crawley abt 1846 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
John Croweder abt 1839 Monmouth, Wales Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Crowlen Ann abt 1844 Surrey, England Head Spitalfields, London
Chas. Cush abt 1840 Sussex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Dalton abt 1843 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Dare abt 1846 Ratcliffe Lodger Christ Church, London
William Davis abt 1844 Essex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Thomas Donovan abt 1841 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
James Driscoll abt 1849 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
F Dunn abt 1842 Chatham, Kent, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Henry Edwards abt 1849 L'Pool, Lancashire, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
George Elliot abt 1847 Stepney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Elliott abt 1841 Paddington, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Fred Evan abt 1839 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Evans Mary abt 1841 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head Spitalfields, London
James Fernatte abt 1845 Westminster, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Fisher abt 1841 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Fitch abt 1841 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Fitcherrall abt 1841 Lanarkshire, Scotland Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Fox abt 1847 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Josh Frost abt 1840 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
William Furze abt 1845 W Chapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Henry Gordnell Mary abt 1849 Bermondsey (...), Surrey, England Head Spitalfields, London
Fred Green Emma abt 1839 Shropshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
John Greenwood Mary abt 1842 St Saviours, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Joseph Harmer abt 1847 Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
William Harrington abt 1845 Blackfriars, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Harris abt 1841 London, City of, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Harrison Maria abt 1849 Romford, Essex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Joseph Hasting abt 1849 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thos Haywood abt 1841 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Arthur Head Mary abt 1840 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Alexander Hillis abt 1841 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Hooker abt 1846 California, United States Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Hopring abt 1842 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Tim Hsacigness abt 1841 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Hughes abt 1846 Bristol, Somerset, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
John Hughes abt 1841 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
William Jackmann abt 1844 Suffolk, England Lodger Christ Church, London
William Jacobs S. abt 1841 (Bs), Germany Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Jinkins abt 1843 Lambeth, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Johnson abt 1848 Norwich, Norfolk, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
Charles Johnson abt 1849 Wapping Lodger Christ Church, London
James Johnson abt 1847 Brentford Lodger Christ Church, London
John Jollery abt 1843 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Jones abt 1846 Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
Thomas Jones abt 1849 Birmingham Lodger Christ Church, London
William Jones abt 1845 Wapping Lodger Christ Church, London
William Jones abt 1846 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Jones abt 1841 Newbury, Berkshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Daniel King abt 1841 Poplar, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Fred Knight abt 1845 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
H Lamply abt 1841 Bethnal Grn, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Edward Lane abt 1841 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Michael Larther abt 1849 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Leary abt 1840 Canada Lodger Christ Church, London
Richard Leeman abt 1842 St Georges, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Leybourne abt 1847 W Chapel Lodger Christ Church, London
Thos. Livingstone abt 1845 Ldn., Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Locke abt 1841 L'Pool, Lancashire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Mason abt 1844 London, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
William McAndrew abt 1841 Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
John A. McDonell Lidia abt 1849 (F), United States Head Spitalfields, London
William McIlkay ? abt 1841 Ireland Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Spitalfields, London
James McKay abt 1843 Stockton, Wiltshire, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry McKenzie abt 1841 Chelmsford, Essex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Samuel Miller abt 1843 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Moore Margaret abt 1849 St Georges, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Andrew Muller abt 1841 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Nason abt 1841 Hackney, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Naybole abt 1839 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Harry Niles abt 1847 London, London, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
William Noble abt 1846 Ldn, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Norfolk abt 1841 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
James Austin O'Brien Sarah abt 1846 Cheshire, England Head Christ Church, London
James Peak abt 1846 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Charles Perkins abt 1841 Middlesex, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Alexander Porter abt 1842 Lambeth Lodger Spitalfields, London
Andrew Richard abt 1845 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Arthur Robinson abt 1841 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Saurnders abt 1846 Finsbury, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
George Scimes abt 1848 Epsom Downs, Surrey, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Short abt 1841 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
Adam Silversmith Julia abt 1849 Ldn., Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Joseph Simes abt 1844 Woolwich Lodger Christ Church, London
Joe Simms abt 1844 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Simons abt 1840 B Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
George Simpson abt 1849 Wales Boarder Spitalfields, London
George Slade Mary abt 1839 Kent, England Head Christ Church, London
Alfred Smith abt 1847 B Green, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Charles Smith abt 1844 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Head Spitalfields, London
Frank Smith Annie abt 1846 Kingsland, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Fred Smith abt 1839 London, Middlesex, England Boarder Spitalfields, London
George Smith abt 1849 W Chapel, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
George Smith abt 1849 (City), Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
James Smith abt 1847 Minories, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Smith abt 1845 Inniskillon, Ireland Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Smith Lydia abt 1848 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Christ Church, London
William Smith abt 1849 Wapping, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Richard Snow Gertrude abt 1849 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Thomas Stone abt 1849 Kent, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Alfred Stove abt 1849 Kent, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Sullivan abt 1842 Wapping Lodger Christ Church, London
Tom Sullivan abt 1846 Ireland Lodger Christ Church, London
Wm. Summers abt 1848 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Alfred Sutton Mary A abt 1849 Poplar, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Charles Taylor abt 1847 Berwick On Tweed Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Fredk. Taylor abt 1839 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Taylor Phillis abt 1841 Camberwell, Surrey, England Christ Church, London
James Thomas Julia abt 1841 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Spitalfields, London
William Thomas abt 1842 Gravesend Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
John Thompson abt 1845 Limehouse Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Thomson abt 1839 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Snowsen Turner abt 1843 London, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
John Walters abt 1839 Liverpool Lodger Christ Church, London
John Ward abt 1841 Scotland Lodger Spitalfields, London
William Ward abt 1842 Walthamstow, Essex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
Thomas Warner Mary abt 1841 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Lodger Spitalfields, London
Henry Weeks Martha abt 1844 Walterbleton, Essex, England Head Spitalfields, London
Harry Williams abt 1841 Stepney Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
Henry Williams abt 1841 Surrey, England Lodger (Head) (Lodger) Christ Church, London
John Williams abt 1842 London, London, Middlesex, England Lodger Christ Church, London
James Willson abt 1845 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Lodger Christ Church, London
John Wilson abt 1847 Devon, England Lodger Christ Church, London
T. Young L. abt 1847 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Head Spitalfields, London

[Ashkenaz]

Thank you Chris.
There is no way I could have muddled through that, and gotten the job done !

[Sam Flynn]

Thank you Chris.
There is no way I could have muddled through that, and gotten the job done !

Indeed, Ashkenaz - Chris is a phenomenon! However, the issue over the Flower & Dean demolition in 1883 still applies, as does the possibility - probability? - that most of those residents of 1881 would not have been there in 1888, and that goes for all streets across the board. On that basis, the "least worst" data in respect of possible residents in 1888 might actually lie in the 1891 Census.

[Ashkenaz]

Indeed, Ashkenaz - Chris is a phenomenon! .

Indeed he is.

However, the issue over the Flower & Dean demolition in 1883 still applies.

Yes, some housing you tell us was demolished to make way for the Rothschild building. About a quarter of the houses were knocked down you tell us in a previous post.

That still leaves 75% of Flower and Dean street. 100% of Thrawl Street, and 100% of Fashion Street. It's still a creditable enquiry

, as does the possibility - probability? - that most of those residents of 1881 would not have been there in 1888, and that goes for all streets across the board. .

This cannot be known for sure. They may have moved into other doss houses further down the street. Some of those houses had 50 + people in them ! I imagine few, if any were turned away from any doss house.

On that basis, the "least worst" data in respect of possible residents in 1888 might actually lie in the 1891 Census.

It could be Sam.

However, many people think the ripper killings ceased in 1888. The theories mooted to accommodate this, are that jtr was dead, imprisoned, or had perhaps fled the country. So of course, should any of these possibilities be correct, then JTR will not appear on the 1891 census.

Another point, is that we know for certain that jtr was alive in 1881, the same cannot be said of 1891.

It could be however, that he was incapacitated, an this would also explain the cessation of further murders.

Illness of course was just around the corner for most working class people in those days, as was what we would consider an early death.

He may even have received some of his own medicine. Perhaps he was incapacitated in a terrible beating in a mugging/street robbery - not an uncommon thing in those days.

What a nice thought !

[Sam Flynn]

Hello Ashkenaz,

That still leaves 75% of Flower and Dean street. 100% of Thrawl Street, and 100% of Fashion Street. It's still a creditable enquiry... They may have moved into other doss houses further down the street.

More to the point, many others might have moved into those streets (and probably did) in the intervening 7 years, during which time many of those listed may have moved out of Whitechapel, the East End, or even England - many emigrated to America. He may have stayed closer to home, in Hanbury Street or Brick Lane, or any number of other streets in the neighbourhood, in which case it's extremely unlikely that we'd find him by focusing on a handful of streets in the vicinity of Flower & Dean in 1881. He may not have lived in central Whitechapel, or London, at that time at all.

A lot could happen in seven years in that part of the world. At least with the 1891 census we only have a gap of just over two years to worry about, so the number of comings and goings would have been much less than those that occurred in the years between 1881 and 1888. Jack may well have been in prison or dead by 1891, but if he didn't live in central Whitechapel during 1881, he may as well have been dead - at least in terms of the very small slice of census data we're looking at here.

[Ashkenaz]

Hello Ashkenaz,More to the point, many others might have moved into those streets (and probably did) in the intervening 7 years, during which time many of those listed may have moved out of Whitechapel, the East End, or even England - many emigrated to America..

You are right of course, any or all of these may have been the case.

It would be interesting to compare the two censi (if thats the plural ?). It would be interesting to see how much the population had changed.

He may have stayed closer to home, in Hanbury Street or Brick Lane, or any number of other streets in the neighbourhood, in which case it's extremely unlikely that we'd find him by focusing on a handful of streets in the vicinity of Flower & Dean in 1881. He may not have lived in central Whitechapel, or London, at that time at all..

Ys he may have lived in other streets. I dont really understand the geographical profilers belief hat jtr probably lived in one of the thre streets discussed sofar. But I'm happy to go with it for now, for the same reason I'm happy to go with the psychological profile.

As for living in other areas of London, again, it could have been so, but many believe he was a local man. A working man who lived in Whitechapel. He certainly knew his way around Whitechapel.

A lot could happen in seven years in that part of the world. At least with the 1891 census we only have a gap of just over two years to worry about, so the number of comings and goings would have been much less than those that occurred in the years between 1881 and 1888. .

I think the 1891 census is just as important as the one prior to it. It would be foolish to dismiss it. I hope Chris produces all the data for that year too, as he has done for 1881. Once its here in this thread, it is available to all interested in this idea.

Jack may well have been in prison or dead by 1891, but if he didn't live in central Whitechapel during 1881, he may as well have been dead - at least in terms of the very small slice of census data we're looking at here.

You've made some good points Sam. I think the later census certainly wants considering. Timewise, it is much closer to the autumn of terror.

[Chris Scott]

For reasons of formatting the 1891 census data is less straightforward to interrogate than the 1881 data. In simple terms this means that it is not possible to specify streetname as a criterion. The only way to interrogate is to know the piece, folio and page number for all pages which includes that address. For example, Flower and Dean Street is covered in London/Christchurch/Spitalfields/District 5 and runs from RG273/134/35 to RG273/141/50.
The trade off for this method is that is not possible to specify an age range, but it is possible to specify gender. So what you get is a full listing of all males for that street. Also instead of a straight alpha run, you get an alpha run per page.

Within these restrictions, below is a full listing for all males living in Flower and Dean Street in the 1891 census:

William Addison abt 1857 Birmingham Boarder Christchurch, London
Richard Ash abt 1853 St Georges est, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Noah Bradshaw abt 1812 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Albert Brooker abt 1884 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Brooker abt 1873 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Brooker abt 1835 Luton, Bedfordshire, England Lodger Christchurch, London
George Brooker abt 1870 Bermondsey, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Carten abt 1829 Edmonton Boarder Christchurch, London
John Davis abt 1860 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Mark Elliott abt 1841 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Freund abt 1831 Clerkenwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Humphrey Emily I abt 1839 Wantage, Berkshire, England Head Christchurch, London
Alfred I Humphrey Alfred, Emily I abt 1871 Stepney, London, England Son Christchurch, London
George Humphrey Alfred, Emily I abt 1879 Spitalfields, London, England Son Christchurch, London
William H Humphrey Alfred, Emily I abt 1874 Spitalfields, London, England Son Christchurch, London
Thomas Hunt abt 1846 St Luke, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William MacKay abt 1869 Wapping, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Russell abt 1858 Bow, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Russell abt 1891 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Anderson abt 1847 Margate Boarder Christchurch, London
Daniel Connor abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Connor abt 1863 Dartford, Kent, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Crawley abt 1851 Shadwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Drew abt 1843 Mile End, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Entress abt 1852 United States Boarder Christchurch, London
William Mackey abt 1848 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Sarter abt 1867 St Georges, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frank Sayers abt 1864 Chatham Boarder Christchurch, London
John Sharp abt 1822 NY Boarder Christchurch, London
Harry Stevens abt 1852 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Stoffel abt 1850 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Taylor abt 1861 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Taylor abt 1823 Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
James Barrett abt 1870 Newmarket Boarder Christchurch, London
Harry Buxton abt 1872 Notting Hill, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Cox abt 1870 Kingsland, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frank Hamilton abt 1846 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Hamilton abt 1882 Sowugh, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Harman abt 1861 Balls Cond, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Jenkins abt 1852 Mile End, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Walter Larder abt 1868 Stratford, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Harry Lykes abt 1850 Sevenoaks Boarder Christchurch, London
George Meakin abt 1876 Brentford Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Meakin abt 1860 St Luke's, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Nuffer abt 1866 Woolwich Boarder Christchurch, London
George Sayce abt 1864 St Georges, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Smith abt 1853 Bermondsey, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Watkins abt 1866 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Welsh abt 1863 Hampshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Backer abt 1868 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Barry abt 1866 Spitalfields, London, England Christchurch, London
William Bonser abt 1851 Bethnal Green, London, England Christchurch, London
Harry Chitty abt 1855 Ramsgate Christchurch, London
Joseph Davis abt 1849 Borough, London, England Christchurch, London
John Eason abt 1865 St Georges, London, England Christchurch, London
James French abt 1861 St Luke, London, England Christchurch, London
David Jenkins abt 1887 Whitechapel, London, England Christchurch, London
Thomas Jenkins abt 1855 Hooton, London, England Christchurch, London
William Jones abt 1841 St Luke, London, England Christchurch, London
Charles Murray abt 1859 St Georges East, London, England Christchurch, London
James Potter abt 1855 Cambridgeshire, England Christchurch, London
Frank Ray abt 1855 Bury St Edmunds Christchurch, London
George Stevens abt 1861 Shoreditch, London, England Christchurch, London
John Bown abt 1849 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Coote abt 1848 Hook; Hampton Boarder Christchurch, London
William Coote abt 1888 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Hildon abt 1863 St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Jones abt 1873 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Langham abt 1860 St Luke's, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Perry abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Robinson abt 1867 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Shepherd abt 1848 Old Ford, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Slate abt 1854 Finsbury, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Sparks abt 1848 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Stanley abt 1836 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Tempest abt 1863 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Tempest abt 1889 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Watson abt 1886 Cardiff Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Watson abt 1861 Gateshead On Lyne Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Watson abt 1890 Shrewsbury Boarder Christchurch, London
John White abt 1861 St George East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Adamy abt 1864 Lambeth, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Bedle abt 1827 Bennington, Hertfordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Begley abt 1819 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Jeremiah Collins abt 1846 St Luke's, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Floyd abt 1853 Herefordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Hugh Floyd abt 1881 Lancashire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Harr abt 1828 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Hom abt 1848 Suffolk, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Huntington abt 1855 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Mason abt 1860 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John McCarthy abt 1855 West Ham, Essex, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John P McCarthy abt 1889 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William G Mead abt 1855 Hull, Yorkshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Murphy abt 1886 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Daniel Murphy abt 1858 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Proctor abt 1854 Gravesend Boarder Christchurch, London
George E Spamer abt 1860 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Strane abt 1839 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Walen abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George William abt 1856 St Luke, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Beams abt 1854 Chris Stall, Essex, England Christchurch, London
Frederick Collins abt 1852 London, England Christchurch, London
Frederick Collins abt 1888 St Georges East, London, England Christchurch, London
James Collins abt 1886 St Georges East, London, England Christchurch, London
John Copten abt 1851 Bethnal Green, London, England Christchurch, London
William Desher abt 1856 Spitalfields, London, England Christchurch, London
William Desher abt 1890 Christchurch, London
William Gesling abt 1846 St Clement, London, England Christchurch, London
Henry Lazarus abt 1859 Whitechapel, London, England Christchurch, London
Joseph Norton abt 1857 Leicestershire, England Christchurch, London
Joseph Norton abt 1883 Bethnal Green, London, England Christchurch, London
Charles Owen abt 1858 Brompton, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Skeet abt 1862 Bethnal Green, London, England Christchurch, London
William Walters abt 1848 Paddington, London, England Christchurch, London
Frederick W Wilkinson abt 1856 Manchester Christchurch, London
Allen Woolgar abt 1846 Chertsey Christchurch, London
Harry Woolgar abt 1878 Chertsey Christchurch, London
Hary Blondin abt 1853 France Boarder Christchurch, London
James Borwick abt 1850 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Burns abt 1827 Dublin, Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
James Burroughs abt 1845 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Casey abt 1823 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Connor abt 1873 Maidstone, Kent, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Crough abt 1835 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Dennis abt 1874 Croydon Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Doolan abt 1873 Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Elevey abt 1851 Oxfordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Arthur Glendening abt 1854 Leicestershire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Hill abt 1851 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Hingst abt 1849 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Albert Hollington abt 1862 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James McCauley abt 1872 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Perryman abt 1827 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Roberts abt 1841 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edwin Silver abt 1872 Leicestershire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Leopold Silver abt 1874 Sweden Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Skeet abt 1872 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Arthur Wellesley abt 1837 Chatham Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Baian abt 1863 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Beard abt 1841 Tottenham Boarder Christchurch, London
John Brooks abt 1853 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Damin abt 1875 Blackfriars, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Daniels abt 1872 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Ford abt 1872 Manchester Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Garvey abt 1873 St Luke, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Glinn abt 1856 Finsbury, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Hayward abt 1874 Clerkenwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Hohner abt 1834 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Lawes abt 1832 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Archibald McKenny abt 1889 Poplar, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Murphy abt 1859 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Walker abt 1842 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Wilkinson abt 1875 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Bridgman abt 1860 N Boarder Christchurch, London
William Collins abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Connor abt 1853 Clerkenwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Crippin abt 1856 Canterbury Boarder Christchurch, London
John Hardy abt 1853 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Hurley abt 1863 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Kelley abt 1889 St Giles, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Kells abt 1829 Halifax, Canada Boarder Christchurch, London
George King abt 1867 St Giles, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Phillip A Scales abt 1873 Blackhiam, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Simmonds abt 1861 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edwin Smith abt 1849 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Robert Strings abt 1860 Blackfrian, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas White abt 1865 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Banks abt 1849 Hastings Boarder Christchurch, London
Edwin Butcher abt 1844 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Daniel Carter abt 1858 Wapping, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Chalkley abt 1861 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Cooney Elizabeth abt 1856 City Road, London, England Head Christchurch, London
Alfred Davies abt 1857 Clerkenwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Davis abt 1856 Liverpool Boarder Christchurch, London
John Davis abt 1855 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Gale abt 1846 Hooton, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edwin J Harrison abt 1852 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Peter H??Ffins abt 1832 Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Johnson abt 1871 St Giles, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Moree abt 1846 St Georges est, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Nack abt 1891 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Nack abt 1889 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Reynolds abt 1823 Hertford, Hertfordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward William abt 1859 Mile End, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Adams abt 1846 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Adams abt 1880 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Arthur Ashby abt 1855 Croydon, Surrey, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Daniel Burns abt 1830 Shadwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Clark abt 1858 Nepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Clarke abt 1824 Hackney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Cooley abt 1851 Lambeth, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Edwards abt 1860 Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
James Hariston abt 1839 Canada Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Hyma abt 1841 Shadwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Jenkins abt 1844 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Dennis Ready abt 1854 Cork, Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
William Rosier abt 1851 Slough, Berkshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Stocks abt 1823 Hoke Ferry, Norfolk, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Stocks abt 1871 Dartford, Kent, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Albert Taylor abt 1871 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Warne abt 1831 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael White abt 1827 Dublin, Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
Norman Connon abt 1823 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Dart abt 1864 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Devine abt 1873 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Philip Harriss abt 1867 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Hayes abt 1851 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Walter Heddy abt 1863 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Hennessey abt 1861 Highgate, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Robert James abt 1875 Limehouse, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry King abt 1862 Liverpool Boarder Christchurch, London
John Lawrence abt 1823 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Jeremiah Marply abt 1846 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John McGinty abt 1871 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Roberts abt 1861 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Steel abt 1834 Walsall Boarder Christchurch, London
James Steel abt 1882 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Sullivan abt 1857 Bristol Boarder Christchurch, London
John Symes abt 1856 Bow, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Arthur West abt 1865 Limehouse, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Askin abt 1833 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Brown abt 1834 Staffordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Brown abt 1871 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas O Connor abt 1857 Lanerick, Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
John Davis abt 1852 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Edwards abt 1863 Lambeth, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Fair abt 1827 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Patrick Garuty abt 1849 Lanarkshire (Glasgow), Scotland Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Golding abt 1876 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Benjamin S Graham abt 1816 Scotland Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Graham abt 1873 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Haak abt 1843 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Harrison abt 1861 Newport Boarder Christchurch, London
Edwin Jones abt 1881 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Ketdup abt 1843 Barking, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Leay abt 1874 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Jeremiah Marshall abt 1819 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Sebastion abt 1837 Sevenoaks Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Severns abt 1863 Hoxton, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Sullivan abt 1827 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Samuel Allum abt 1845 Colchester Boarder Christchurch, London
Ernest Best abt 1871 Stoke Newington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Cox abt 1864 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Dawes abt 1834 West Ham, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Donovan abt 1863 Borough, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Joseph Garrutz abt 1889 Hartlepool Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Garrutz abt 1881 Hartlepool Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Garrutz abt 1887 Hartlepool Boarder Christchurch, London
William May abt 1857 Minories, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Robert Taylor abt 1843 Northamptonshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Robert Taylor abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Wadi abt 1850 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Wright abt 1861 Holborn, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Wright abt 1889 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Bacon Annie abt 1847 Bethnal Green, London, England Head Christchurch, London
William Bishop abt 1870 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Gilbey James, Jane abt 1885 Spitalfields, London, England Son Christchurch, London
George Gilbey James, Jane abt 1882 Spitalfields, London, England Son Christchurch, London
James Gilbey Jane abt 1852 Wapping, London, England Head Christchurch, London
James Gilbey James, Jane abt 1880 Spitalfields, London, England Son Christchurch, London
Benjamin Harpley Sarah abt 1838 London, England Head Christchurch, London
Thomas Jones abt 1859 Wapping, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Level abt 1855 Islington, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Edward Robinson abt 1856 Portsmouth Boarder Christchurch, London
James Sansom Sarah abt 1851 Stopsley, London, England Head Christchurch, London
Thomas Tiffin abt 1847 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Alexander abt 1851 Edmonton Boarder Christchurch, London
George Bayt abt 1862 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Bram abt 1867 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Brett abt 1853 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Evington abt 1876 Elstree Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Gibson abt 1831 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Humphrys abt 1826 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Humphrys abt 1851 Taunton Boarder Christchurch, London
George Jackson abt 1855 Rowsley, Derbyshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Johnson abt 1851 Derbyshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Johnson abt 1891 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Kelley abt 1843 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George King abt 1853 Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
John O'Connor abt 1831 Cork, Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Spicer abt 1841 Gloucestershire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Albert Ward abt 1885 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Ward abt 1836 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Ward abt 1882 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Philip Carney abt 1854 Holborn, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Collaway abt 1837 Creenwich Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Conners abt 1834 Borough, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Daley abt 1846 Uttoxeter, Derbyshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Humphrey Davis abt 1819 Holbon, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Edwards abt 1846 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Evans abt 1863 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Finberg abt 1851 Spitalfields, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Mike Jones abt 1831 Canterbury, Kent, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Peter Jones abt 1865 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Jones abt 1841 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Lane abt 1821 Exeter, Devon, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Murphy abt 1851 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Read abt 1864 Hooton, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Ready abt 1854 Limehouse, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Smith abt 1859 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Frederick Styles abt 1865 Wapping, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Arthur White abt 1862 Limehouse, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Mike White abt 1845 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Jack Williams abt 1853 Ireland Boarder Christchurch, London
Abram Berman abt 1875 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Moses Berman abt 1874 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Callaghan Mary A abt 1841 St Georges East, London, England Head Christchurch, London
Henry Cole abt 1831 Stepney, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Collins abt 1872 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Connors abt 1863 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Alfred Cring abt 1863 Wapping, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Abram Freedman abt 1875 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Fuller abt 1823 Boarder Christchurch, London
William Hannigan abt 1834 Boarder Christchurch, London
David Helley abt 1869 Bristol Boarder Christchurch, London
John Hurley abt 1871 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Johnson abt 1859 Lanchouse, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles Jones abt 1855 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Jones abt 1846 London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
David Morgan abt 1875 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Rielly abt 1867 Bristol Boarder Christchurch, London
James Seal abt 1866 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Shane abt 1838 Germany Boarder Christchurch, London
Michael Singleton abt 1865 Shoreditch, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Henry Smith abt 1864 Holborn, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Walter J Wright abt 1872 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Harry Bennett abt 1845 Warwickshire, England Boarder Christchurch, London
John Bradley abt 1849 Bermondsey, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Samuel Dinsdale abt 1835 Clerkenwell, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Corneluis Hanlon William, Bridget abt 1873 Wapping, London, England Son Christchurch, London
William Hanlon Bridget abt 1846 Bath Head Christchurch, London
Thomas Herdland abt 1866 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Thomas Herdland abt 1889 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
William Herdland abt 1890 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
James Hurley abt 1872 Whitechapel, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Charles McCarthy Ellen abt 1849 Cork, Ireland Head Christchurch, London
Charles McCarthy Charles, Ellen abt 1881 Shoreditch, London, England Son Christchurch, London
Rayner ??Beth abt 1851 St Georges East, London, England Head Christchurch, London
Robert Skinner abt 1849 St Georges East, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Smith abt 1857 Bethnal Green, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
George Smith abt 1869 St Lukes, London, England Boarder Christchurch, London
Harry Watson Mary J abt 1851 Soho, London, England Head Christchurch, London
Henry Watson Harry, Mary J abt 1884 Soho, London, England Son Christchurch, London
James Wright abt 1856 Oldford, London, England Head Christchurch, London

[Sam Flynn]

A (very) quick and dirty survey of those entries Chris posted reveals that, of about 783 entries in total (inclusive of both censuses), only 34 male residents of 1881 seem to have still been there in 1891. They were:

John Alexander
Charles Beams/Beans
John Brooks
John Brown
William Brown
William Callaghan
Frederick Clarke
James Clarke
James Connor
John Cooney
John Crawley
James/John Fuller
James Hill
Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Johnson
William Johnson
John Jones
Thomas Jones
William Jones
John/Edward Lane
John/George/Alexander Mason
John Moore
Joseph Norton
Edwin Smith
George Smith
George Smith
Henry Smith
Thomas Smith
John Sullivan
John Taylor
George Walker
John White
Jack Williams

Note that the forenames with "/"s against them might have been from the same family. Whilst no single name appears in both censuses, I've made the assumption that at least one member of the family remained in Flower & Dean, possibly using a middle name in one census compared to the other.

This is very rough and ready, but it shows a little of what we're up against. In Flower & Dean Street at least, it seems that only circa 5% of the males from those samples taken in 1881 and 1891 were "long-term" residents of that street.

[claire]

Hi Claire

In your opinion, is there any validity to my idea ? It seems we are fresh out of ideas, given the paucity of clues.

It seems a breath of fresh air to me..

Well, you know, given Chris's lists (sorry, it's taken me this long to scrape myself up off the floor--that's incredible, Chris; I am in awe), I think you at least have a starting point. Of course, it's not a question of just looking down lists and suddenly gasping with realisation, but you knew that. I think if you are prepared to do the legwork (which, from now on, I shall call the Chris Scott work in homage), then you have a basis for testing a hypothesis. Why the hell not? It's something to work on rather than banging your head against the GSG, or burying yourself in Astrakhan If you have a pet theory, like, JtR stopped killing because he got on a boat and went to New Zealand or whatever, then you can check all those residents who, right after 1888, bailed to NZ. It'd give some focus to your enquiries, anyhow (not the NZ thing, just having a hypothesis to test). Me, I don't think he stuck around. So I'd exclude those (for the first go round) who appear on both censuses. Then, as you disprove hypotheses, you can delete names.

Why the hell not? If you dressed it up as a study of mobility amongst slum dwellers, dossers and the Whitechapel poor, you'd probably get someone to offer you a desk somewhere to research it, at least Good luck...and keep us posted!

[Sam Flynn]

If you think those lists are impressive, Claire, check out Chris's transcripts of the Whitechapel Infirmary records for 88/89. I've created a spreadsheet from them and added a few extra columns for my own analysis purposes, but the considerable grunt work was done by the estimable Mr Scott. You can download a copy of the spreadsheet here.

As to the census, I've often mused myself that we might be able to throw a net around London and, by a process of elimination, find the blighter on the basis that "he must be in there somewhere". However, once you realise the sheer number of people involved and factor in the inaccuracy and incompleteness of the records, as well as the transitory nature of the population, then it becomes more of an exercise in optimism than detective-work. Plus, it has to be said, it all too often degenerates into "I think it was him... perhaps not... then HIM! ... dead end... erm, OK then... what about THIS one?" (repeat a few dozen times until interest wanes).

Not that I wish to rain on any parades - on the contrary, "census-sweeping" is something I personally enjoy - it's just that I appreciate what a mammoth undertaking such a thing would be. It's hard enough, sometimes, to track known relatives - but "the man without a name"? All I can say is "Good luck"

The good news is that learning about these people, whether we find JTR or not, is a richly rewarding exercise in itself.