distances between kills.odd

[SkipToTheEnd]

surely this is just showing where his comfortable range of action is in relation to a 'safe' space for himself/herself etc? Thats probably the only pattern i'd find in these

[JeffHamm]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but I've not had time to read the entire 12 pages. But first, the choice of what locations are being "joined" seems to be based upon what "joining" creates the desired outcome. As mentioned in an earlier post, join the Nichols, Chapman, Stride, and Eddowes differently and you get a cross. Add Kelly, you get a different pattern. What if Tabram was part of the series? What if Stride isn't? The distance between crimes are only similar if you choose the similar distances and ignore the ones that are not (the distance between Eddowes and Nichols is much further than the others, add Tabram in and suddenly a bunch of new lengths get included.

In the map I hope I've attached to this post, I've taken the map of locations from the BTK (Dennis Rader) crimes. If I look for parallelagrams, I can find them, if I look for triangles, I can find those (those are easy). If I look for relationships, I can find them (the big triangle on the left and the small one near the top, look like the same triangle, but different sizes; is that a sign?) I can find them in completely unrelated things too, like the map symbol placements, or the locations of ATD security offices, and the more creative I get in my search, and the more selective I get in what I choose, I can produce what I'm looking for. This is the problem when we approach a random pattern with an idea in mind of what we're looking for in the first place. We will find it.

There will be some information in the pattern of crime locations, as they reflect the travels of the criminal, areas they choose to find victims, and that will not be entirely random. But, it tends to reflect choices about distances they are willing to travel, how close to home they are willing to commit an offense, how the location of the previous offense influences their next direction of travel, and so forth. While behaviours at a specific crime scene may reflect some sort of symbolic thinking, I can't think of a single case where the locations were chosen ahead of time to specifically mark out any sort of pre-determined pattern. The whole idea requires that JtR have chosen those locations before any of the crimes were committed.

[Joshua Rogan]

Please excuse my ignorance but I don't get the joke (regarding my very silly theory); although, there being two of them, works well with the 'double event.'

Apologies, I guess you need to have seen the recent documentary - "I'm a rectangle and he's a rectangle and together we make a square..."


Well, it made me laugh.

[APerno]

Obviously, Jack was really Matt Goss from Bros. And his brother.

Please excuse my ignorance but I don't get the joke (regarding my very silly theory); although, there being two of them, works well with the 'double event.'

[Joshua Rogan]

That's Roslyn D'Onston Stephenson's letter. One of the most interesting of the first-generation conspiracy theorists.

Aah, thanks Sam. A suspect I've sadly neglected. But he did actually come to mind when I read it.

And, to conflate two threads, I think I recently read somewhere that he was in Portsmouth shortly before the Whitechapel murders?

[Sam Flynn]

There is a similar theory to Albie's in the Pall Mall Gazette 1st Dec 1888.

That's Roslyn D'Onston Stephenson's letter. One of the most interesting of the first-generation conspiracy theorists.

[Joshua Rogan]

There is a similar theory to Albie's in the Pall Mall Gazette 1st Dec 1888. The only trouble is that they foolishly join the dots to make a cross, not a rhomboid.

https://www.casebook.org/press_reports/pall_mall_gazette/18881201.html

[Joshua Rogan]

....So now all we need to do is answer the question: who functions in a universe of "squares and rectangles"? I realize the answer is obvious so I won't waste the time of such a learned group by explaining myself, but I think we can all agree we are closer now, than we have ever been before, to understanding who Saucy Jacky really was. Food for thought.

Obviously, Jack was really Matt Goss from Bros. And his brother.

[seanr]

So now all we need to do is answer the question: who functions in a universe of "squares and rectangles"? I realize the answer is obvious so I won't waste the time of such a learned group by explaining myself, but I think we can all agree we are closer now, than we have ever been before, to understanding who Saucy Jacky really was. Food for thought.

A Square, the hero of Flatland. Wait, proof positive that the Ripper was Edwin Abbott?

[APerno]

If you connect four of the "canonical five victims" with red lines and the "other possible victims" with white lines, you get a red square and a white rectangle.* This is significant because the white rectangle leads a path down Commercial Street directly to 13 Miller's Court, and it is a known fact that all JTR conspiracies must end with Mary Kelly (it's a rule). So now all we need to do is answer the question: who functions in a universe of "squares and rectangles"? I realize the answer is obvious so I won't waste the time of such a learned group by explaining myself, but I think we can all agree we are closer now, than we have ever been before, to understanding who Saucy Jacky really was. Food for thought.

*This is a reference to the new rethought RSWT theory, not the original, often debunked RSWT theory. I realize it can be difficult to distinguish between the two, that is why I chose to use both red and white lines.

[Robert St Devil]

albie. Just trying to real-time your theory but probably won't venture too far down that rabbit-hole. Can't tell whether you're claiming that Jack the Ripper drew out a diagram on a map before the murders were committed. Or whether you think Jack the Ripper walked out these distances to form a diamond shape prior to the murders In either case, he would have to keep in mind that the four points had to provide him with suitable locations to commit murder.

It looks like you used an ordnance map from 1894 and MS Paint, which weren't available to Jack the Ripper in 1888. If it's the first case ie using a map and a ruler, which street map do you theorize Jack the Ripper used?

Only real interest in the topic is the part about maps, as in, did Jack the Ripper use one for the purpose of the murders?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just been catching up on this thread and theory.

16 pages and what is amazing is the utter lack of knowledge demonstrated by the proposer of the theory, about the case itself.
That is not to say the theoriest does not know any, simply that they have not shown very much in their posts.

What there is in the posts, is a tendency to support, ideas which are not commonly accepted. And a belief that everyone else is wrong, they are right, and all those arguing against are small minded and envious.

What is given as evidence, is not evidence, it is conjecture based on possibility, nothing wrong with such, but there is nothing other than the belief that the theoriest has in their own untested hypothesis,one which by definition is hard to test,given so much is based on myth and the supernatural.

Until such time as real measurable evidence is presented there is really little to say about such ideas.


Steve

Excellent post Steve. Sums everything up perfectly

[packers stem]

Just been catching up on this thread and theory.

16 pages and what is amazing is the utter lack of knowledge demonstrated by the proposer of the theory, about the case itself.
That is not to say the theoriest does not know any, simply that they have not shown very much in their posts.

What there is in the posts, is a tendency to support, ideas which are not commonly accepted. And a belief that everyone else is wrong, they are right, and all those arguing against are small minded and envious.

What is given as evidence, is not evidence, it is conjecture based on possibility, nothing wrong with such, but there is nothing other than the belief that the theoriest has in their own untested hypothesis,one which by definition is hard to test,given so much is based on myth and the supernatural.

Until such time as real measurable evidence is presented there is really little to say about such ideas.


Steve

We agree for a change Steve

Very different to argue against strongly held beliefs , similar to religion .
It's like when people use the bible, as if it's a form of evidence , to back up a religious argument .
They are unable to grasp the idea that to someone who isn't religious the bible isn't evidence of anything .
It then becomes an impossible discussion

[Elamarna]

Just been catching up on this thread and theory.

16 pages and what is amazing is the utter lack of knowledge demonstrated by the proposer of the theory, about the case itself.
That is not to say the theoriest does not know any, simply that they have not shown very much in their posts.

What there is in the posts, is a tendency to support, ideas which are not commonly accepted. And a belief that everyone else is wrong, they are right, and all those arguing against are small minded and envious.

What is given as evidence, is not evidence, it is conjecture based on possibility, nothing wrong with such, but there is nothing other than the belief that the theoriest has in their own untested hypothesis,one which by definition is hard to test,given so much is based on myth and the supernatural.

Until such time as real measurable evidence is presented there is really little to say about such ideas.


Steve

[APerno]

I am David Icke's biggest detractor, to the point that I was banned from twitter.

If I may, is this from twitter altogether or just from corresponding with David Icke?