All Roads Lead to Dorset St.,

[DJA]

One of four unemployed ladies aged 17,21,22 and 35 sharing a room diagonally across the road from Miller's Court.

[richardnunweek]

i have always found the letter from Yarmouth giving 14, Dorset street as very interesting,
An amazing coincidence. or was it?
Interesting that in the 1891 census we have a young person called Smith originating from Yarmouth,living at that address ,
Regards Richard.

[rjpalmer]

Yarmouth letter giving a Dorset Street address for Jack as 14 Dorset St., before Mary Kelly was murdered, published on 2nd November 1888. https://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=15280

I mentioned this in the OP.

You no doubt know this, but the Morning Post of 10 November lists Caroline Maxwell at No. 14 Dorset. This letter is one of the many oddities of which this case is replete.

[Paddy]

Does anyone know anything about Thomas Kelly born 1856 Spitalfields who was living with his wife Ann born 1852 in Ireland in 13 Millers Court in 1891?
Pat.....

[Batman]

So what is the current explanation for this?

Yarmouth letter giving a Dorset Street address for Jack as 14 Dorset St., before Mary Kelly was murdered, published on 2nd November 1888. https://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=15280

I mentioned this in the OP.

[Batman]

Has anybody mentioned Kitty Ronan? https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-kit.html

Very interesting. If JtR he did away with his blade long ago then and dropped his new one.

[John G]

Has anybody mentioned Kitty Ronan? https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-kit.html

[MrBarnett]

Wilkinson tells us they 'passed as man and wife'. Passed, not lived, which suggests to me they they may well have presented themselves as Mr and Mrs Kelly in a situation where it was unlikely that anyone would contradict them - when they were hopping for instance. That is certainly speculation, but is hardly 'wild'. It's what unmarried cohabiting couples often did at the time.

It seems Kate may well have pretended to be Conway's wife. And why would that have been? An attempt to cling to a shred of respectability I'd imagine. The same reason she might have for passing herself off as Mrs Kelly.

I'm not sure if you've seen the list of names used by/attributed to Alice McKenzie:

Anderson
Baxter
Bryant
Kell
Kelly
Kelley
Kinsey
Mackenzie
McCormack
McKensey
McKenzie
M'Kenzie
Murrell
Pits
Pitts
Riley
Taylor

I've cheated by adding McCormack because I've never seen that name used for her in print, but I'm pretty sure that there will have been people who knew her only as Alice, the 'wife' of John McCormack.

This may also be of interest. It's from the habitual criminals register (can't remember the date off the top of my head) and it shows how common the use of the name 'Kelly' was as an alias:

[DJA]

Henry "Reliable Memoirs" Smith, you mean?

I'll decipher that as a "Yes".

He was RL Stevenson's cousin and no doubt the model for Inspector Newcomen in his 1885 novella.

[DJA]

Bright's disease was not an uncommon condition, though, was it? From memory both Mulshaw and Bowyer suffered from it.

The type that I believe Eddowes had resulted in 19,000 deaths worldwide in 2013.

[Sam Flynn]

You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.

Henry "Reliable Memoirs" Smith, you mean?

[MrBarnett]

Especially when the Strep pyogenes has caused chronic kidney disease in Eddowes case.

You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.

The kidney left in the corpse was in an advanced stage of Bright's Disease ; the kidney sent me was in an exactly similar state. But what was of far more importance, Mr. Sutton, one of the senior surgeons of the London Hospital, whom Gordon Brown asked to meet him and another practitioner in consultation, and who was one of the greatest authorities living on the kidney and its diseases, said he would pledge his reputation that the kidney submitted to them had been put in spirits within a few hours of its removal from the body-thus effectually disposing of all hoaxes in connection with it. The body of anyone done to death by violence is not taken direct to the dissecting-room, but must await an inquest, never held before the following day at the soonest.

Bright's disease was not an uncommon condition, though, was it? From memory both Mulshaw and Bowyer suffered from it.

[DJA]

You mean they kept going back to him, and/or he kept tabs on them, for 21 years?

Especially when the Strep pyogenes has caused chronic kidney disease in Eddowes case.

You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.

The kidney left in the corpse was in an advanced stage of Bright's Disease ; the kidney sent me was in an exactly similar state. But what was of far more importance, Mr. Sutton, one of the senior surgeons of the London Hospital, whom Gordon Brown asked to meet him and another practitioner in consultation, and who was one of the greatest authorities living on the kidney and its diseases, said he would pledge his reputation that the kidney submitted to them had been put in spirits within a few hours of its removal from the body-thus effectually disposing of all hoaxes in connection with it. The body of anyone done to death by violence is not taken direct to the dissecting-room, but must await an inquest, never held before the following day at the soonest.

[Sam Flynn]

MB Lond,FRCP who treated her and Nichols for Rheumatic Fever from December 1867.

You mean they kept going back to him, and/or he kept tabs on them, for 21 years?

[DJA]

MB Lond,FRCP who treated her and Nichols for Rheumatic Fever from December 1867.