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  • Miller's Court Demolition Photo

    Are we 100% sure that what we are seeing in the demolition photo of Miller's Court IS indeed Miller's Court and not the court behind Numbers 28 & 29 Dorset Street?
    Thanks

    http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/9725.jpg
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    Hello Richard

    I've seen much higher-res versions of that print that make it pretty clear that we're dealing with Miller's Court. Sorry I don't have a copy that I can post... perhaps someone else has?
    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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    • #3
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      Regards,

      Simon

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      • #4
        Simon, that is astonishing! Thanks
        What else have you got that would help me stop making all the mistakes I've made with these models? That clear image has instantly shown me lots of areas of my current model are wrong on many counts! (goddamit!).

        Oh! and those chimneys! with the extra wide chimney breast! a piece of the puzzle that I was missing!

        Have you got any more that you'd be willing to share with me?



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        Regards,

        Simon
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        • #5
          An extra wide breast Is needed, I believe, when a chimney services more than one or perhaps two fireplaces.
          G U T

          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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          • #6
            With due respect to Simon Wood, the roof tiles and roof structure don't look right. The substantial building across the street doesn't look right. But what do I know? To me, this looks to be wrong for Dorset Street, even possibly wrong for London. Paris maybe?
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            • #7
              It's a high resolution scan and detail enlargement from this photograph.

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              Regards,

              Simon

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              • #8
                Hi Richard,

                Sorry, that photo is all I have in my Millers Court collection. Apart from the Leonard Matters photos and the well-known one of the window.

                Regards,

                Simon
                Last edited by Simon Wood; 02-18-2018, 06:16 PM.

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                • #9
                  To me, this looks to be wrong for Dorset Street, even possibly wrong for London. Paris maybe?
                  Adam Wood and others located landmarks proving this is Dorset Street when the photo was first posted 14 years ago.



                  There are many threads here on Casebook discussing it.
                  Here are just a couple of them.

                  http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=1755&page=2
                  http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4921/9875.html

                  JM

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                  • #10
                    Thank you, Simon!

                    I count 9(?) chimneys, would this mean that there are 9 rooms inside of No. 26? And, with the chimneys being along that far wall in the photo, does that indicate all of the rooms were situated along that far wall too? (Wondering if I have to rethink the placement of the staircase)
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                    • #11
                      In the fab high def image we can clearly see the court is derelict and in the process of being demolished. Why are the chimney pots smoking?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
                        Thank you, Simon!

                        I count 9(?) chimneys, would this mean that there are 9 rooms inside of No. 26? And, with the chimneys being along that far wall in the photo, does that indicate all of the rooms were situated along that far wall too? (Wondering if I have to rethink the placement of the staircase)
                        The 8 chimneys suggest that 10 x 12 feet might be a standard room size.
                        Reckon the ninth is next door.

                        The front door on Dorset Street and the one nailed shut in 13 Miller's Court implies a passage through the whole house,so the staircase would be offset by at least 5 feet.

                        Thanks for the 'photo Simon. It also places that pesky lamp post.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by richardh View Post
                          In the fab high def image we can clearly see the court is derelict and in the process of being demolished. Why are the chimney pots smoking?
                          Well they look pretty high

                          Prolly still had tenants in the main house.

                          Incidentally , the 3 floors on the Goad map is most likely a clerical mistake.
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                            Yes, it would seem like it might be a mistake.
                            I have a few (dozen) more questions regarding that hi-def image but I have to wait til i'm home to annotate the image with my queries. Also I'm reviewing and remodelling my 3D model due to the errors I have made in light of this hi-def shot. My roof and attic and a few other areas were way off.

                            This model is in constant state of flux at the minute!

                            Onward!

                            PS: Dave, what's your current opinion on the stairs in 26?



                            Originally posted by DJA View Post
                            Well they look pretty high

                            Prolly still had tenants in the main house.

                            Incidentally , the 3 floors on the Goad map is most likely a clerical mistake.
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                            • #15
                              Just lost another reply. Grrr!

                              Suspect the staircase was for more than Prater's room.

                              Her testimony is curious.
                              13 had lining boards and the passageway door nailed shut.
                              Thought there would be a wall behind the boards.
                              Yet the partition was thin?

                              Was the house built for weavers?
                              Dorset Street looks like it.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourni...et,_London.jpg

                              I'd go for another central staircase mid house.

                              Still working on it.
                              Last edited by DJA; 02-19-2018, 06:07 AM. Reason: Link.
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