Swanson's notes on Stride's murder

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  • Hamrammr
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    Does anyone know the process for obtaining high resolution copies of these documents from the national archives? I presume they're still kept at Kew? The collection of documents this comes from http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jack-Ripper-...pper+documetns was first published 13 years ago, so presumably a better scan might be obtained. I'll look into it.

    Meanwhile . . . I might read through this report including the (mustn't say 'm' word) margin notes, to try to guess what Swanson might have scribbled there. What's most likely, sadly, is that it's a mistake, nonsense, or something he didn't think ought to be there. Sadly the last one is least likely.

    I hope no one thinks I'm winding them up with this, by the way! It's not a practical joke! But apologies for sore eyes/headaches. Please do take regular breaks away from your workstations.

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  • Hamrammr
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    Originally posted by Pandora View Post
    Agreed, just the "definitely" and "been" need to be the other way around.

    "This is said to have been at 1.35 : by that time the woman had been definitely murdered"
    I agree. The above is the most likely interpretation of the sentence. Does sound odd with the placement of the 'been,' but this could be a mistake. Maybe even why he scribbled the whole thing out!

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  • Pandora
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    But Liz is not connected to the time of 1.35, she was dead by then.
    Eddowes has a connection to 1.35.
    I can't see any context that would cause him to connect Liz with 1.35.
    Agreed. Although I don't think it says "Liz", I do think the first initial of that word could be a capital "L".

    Without a higher resolution image to begin with, it's too hard to really clean up that text though.

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  • Pandora
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post
    Bit more maybe

    "If it was that time it cannot be the woman " bla bla bla "Church Road" bla ??

    Pat....
    The only thing I can see clearly (for want of a better word) in that 2nd paragraph is 1.35 - so it seems he is definitely referring to the time again. If you can see "Church Road", I commend you, most of the remainder of that sentence looks like spaghetti to me.

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  • Paddy
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    Bit more maybe

    "If it was that time it cannot be the woman " bla bla bla "Church Road" bla ??

    Pat....

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  • Paddy
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    I think the first bit of second part says
    "If it was that time it cannot be "
    Pat...

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    I KNOW. And yet it clearly says Liz to me.

    Stare at something in the middle distance to ease your eyes. You may have the impulse to squint. Curb that impulse
    And to think, today of all days I just had "glasses required" removed from my driving license..
    Perhaps a touch premature....my eyes are watering with all this!

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
    Maybe it's like one of those pictures you can only see when you unfocus your gaze?

    Surely there's some software that can tell which layer of writing is on top, and strip it away...?
    "When Lord? When the hell do I get to see the goddamn sailboat?"

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  • Joshua Rogan
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    Maybe it's like one of those pictures you can only see when you unfocus your gaze?

    Surely there's some software that can tell which layer of writing is on top, and strip it away...?

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  • Errata
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    I think the secret is to get the rhythm of the Cs crossing out the text in order to anticipate where it's going to hit in the word, and then be able to extract the Cs from that word. Visually.

    Not that I'm having any success at it, but I think that's the key.

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    But Liz is not connected to the time of 1.35, she was dead by then.
    Eddowes has a connection to 1.35.
    I can't see any context that would cause him to connect Liz with 1.35.
    I KNOW. And yet it clearly says Liz to me.

    Stare at something in the middle distance to ease your eyes. You may have the impulse to squint. Curb that impulse

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  • Wickerman
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    "If the time 1.35 is correct the
    woman had walked to that...."?



    This is killing my eyes!

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  • Wickerman
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    "If the time 1.35 is correct the
    woman had...."?

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    I think it's liz.

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    But Liz is not connected to the time of 1.35, she was dead by then.
    Eddowes has a connection to 1.35.
    I can't see any context that would cause him to connect Liz with 1.35.

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post

    Second line may be "If [we say?] 1.35 it can't be concluded...." (or "excluded")?
    I'm thinking:
    "If the time 1.35 is correct....."?

    "If the xxxx 1.35 is correct..."

    The xxx must be "time"?

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