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  • lynn cates
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    diagnosis

    Hello Phil. Oldtimers, perhaps? (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Phil. Thanks.

    So, I'm not senile after all? (Well . . .)

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hello Lynn,

    just a bit of Alzheimers Light...if I remember the name correctly...heh heh

    Now what were we talking about again?

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • lynn cates
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    yup

    Hello Phil. Thanks.

    So, I'm not senile after all? (Well . . .)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Phil. Good grief! I thought PC Watkins lived on Eldon Road?

    I daresay Neil will know.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hello Lynn,

    In the 1881 census..

    6 Eldon Street, St Leonard, Shoreditch
    Head: Edward Watkins aged 37 born City - City Police Constable
    Children:
    Emily aged 14 - Confectioner
    Sophy aged 11
    Annie aged 9
    All children born in City of London

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • lynn cates
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    Eldon rd

    Hello Phil. Good grief! I thought PC Watkins lived on Eldon Road?

    I daresay Neil will know.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Simon,

    Have found the answer..

    http://www.londontown.com/LondonStre...reet_c68.html/

    Just around the corner, I believe.


    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi All,

    Finsbury Square, 1888—

    No. 14, Young Women's Christian Association, Miss H.S. Baldwin, Superintendent.

    No. 28, German Young Men's Home, C.H. Feldman, Secretary

    No. 28, Young Men's Christian Association, W. Muller, Secretary

    Regards,

    Simon

    Hello Simon,


    Dr. Frederick Gordon Brown ((b 1843, d. 1928)
    of 6, North Buildings, Eldon Street, Finsbury Circus.

    About how far from Finsbury Square is Eldon Street, do you know by chance?

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • lynn cates
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    Polish Jew

    Hello Roy. Thanks for that.

    This looks like the one. You will notice that there was some hint that he merely wanted a pleasant vacation to England at government expense.

    Yes, I noticed the stay at Holloway Prison. Wonder what the charge was?

    My biggest fascination, however, involves HM government referring to Wirtkofsky as a "Polish Jew." I am also interested in Lowenheim's claim that he could identify him. I smell a faint odour of the "Seaside Home" episode.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    1888

    Julius Lowenheim was twenty one years old in 1888. It was not uncommon for a young German man to travel to London and stay for awhile, working for instance in a hotel or resturant, and then return to Germany. As to why the British Consul characterized him as an 'American German' he could have picked up some Americanisms in his speech.

    Roy

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    Lynn, I hadn't thought of that, a witness.

    Here is the Julius Lowenheim I located. Is this the 'American German,' the 'youth' who spoke to the consul at Dresden about his conversation in London? In 1888? I don't know. Notice Julius and wife Sarah were born Germany and married in 1891, and daughter Zerlina born in 1892. But also notice in 1901 Julius was in Holloway Prison, London, while wife & daughter were at 634 Commercial Road, Limehouse, London. They immigrated to America at some point.

    * Julius LOWENHEIM
    ABT 1867 - 7 Sep 1933
    OCCUPATION: merchants clerk 1901
    OCCUPATION: clerk 1910
    OCCUPATION: Manager .... & Meat 1920
    OCCUPATION: restauranteur 1933
    RESIDENCE: 1901, Holloway Prison London
    RESIDENCE: Apr 1903, 648 E 13 St New York
    RESIDENCE: Apr 1903, St Louis MO
    RESIDENCE: 1910, Sophia Ave 22nd Ward St Louis Missouri
    RESIDENCE: 1920, Spring Ave St Louis
    RESIDENCE: 1930, St Charles St St Ferdinand Twp St Louis Missouri
    RESIDENCE: Bet. 1931 - 1933, Natural Bridge Bridgeton Missouri
    BIRTH: ABT 1867, Berlin 51 in 1920 born Alsace Lorraine
    DEATH: 7 Sep 1933, Jewish Hospital, St Louis, Missouri bronchopneumonia; age 63 years, 7 months 21 days
    BURIAL: 10 Sep 1933, New Mount Sinai Cemetery, St Louis Missouri
    Father: Moritz LOWENHEIM
    Mother: Zerline JACOBY

    Family 1 : Sarah JACOBI
    MARRIAGE: ABT 1891
    Zerlina LOWENHEIM

    * Wife Sarah JACOBI
    5 Dec 1869 - 1 Jun 1940
    OCCUPATION: restauranteur
    RESIDENCE: 1901, 634 Commercial Rd Limehouse London
    RESIDENCE: 1920, Spring Ave St Louis Missouri
    RESIDENCE: 1930, St Charles St St Ferdinand Twp St Louis Missouri
    RESIDENCE: 1940, 9900 Natural Bridge St Louis
    BIRTH: 5 Dec 1869, Germany
    DEATH: 1 Jun 1940, Jewish Hospital, St Louis
    BURIAL: New Mount Sinai Cemetery, St Louis Missouri
    Father: Jacob JACOBI
    Mother: SCHOENGRUBER

    Family 1 : Julius LOWENHEIM
    MARRIAGE: ABT 1891
    Zerlina LOWENHEIM

    * Daughter Zerlina LOWENHEIM
    9 Aug 1892 - 12 Jun 1975
    RESIDENCE: 1901, 634 Commercial Rd Limehouse London
    RESIDENCE: Apr 1903, St Louis MO
    RESIDENCE: 1910, Sophia Ave St Louis
    RESIDENCE: 1930, St Charles St St Ferdinand Twp St Louis Missouri
    RESIDENCE: 1940, 9900 Naturalbridge
    BIRTH: 9 Aug 1892, Germany age 17 from 1910
    DEATH: 12 Jun 1975, 91605 (North Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA)
    BURIAL: New Mount Sinai Cemetery, St Louis Missouri
    Father: Julius LOWENHEIM
    Mother: Sarah JACOBI

    Family 1 : JENKINS
    MARRIAGE: ABT 1913

    And Mr. Lowenheim's Missouri Death Certificate (click) which generally conforms in the particulars. (if this doesn't come up let me know and i will capture it for the screen)

    From the St Louis newspaper

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  • lynn cates
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    identified

    Hello Roy, Simon. To put this another way: Lowenheim claimed that he could identify Wirtkofsky. Was he ever taken to identify him? If Wirtkofsky, the Polish Jew, was identified, and KNEW that he was identified . . .

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    rabbi

    Hello Simon. Thanks.

    I have researched "Lowenheim." One of two was a rabbi.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi All,

    Finsbury Square, 1888—

    No. 14, Young Women's Christian Association, Miss H.S. Baldwin, Superintendent.

    No. 28, German Young Men's Home, C.H. Feldman, Secretary

    No. 28, Young Men's Christian Association, W. Muller, Secretary

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • lynn cates
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    2 questions

    Hello All. I noticed this again in Evans and Skinner.

    1. Does anyone understand the significance of the “Christian Home” in Finsbury Square?

    2. Was Julius Lowenheim possibly of Jewish extraction?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    Another possibility for Julius Lowenheim is this man. He would have been 21 years old in 1888. A "youth."

    From here Julius LOWENHEIM [N1549]
    • OCCUPATION: merchants clerk
    1901
    • OCCUPATION: clerk
    1910
    • RESIDENCE: 1901, Holloway Prison London
    • RESIDENCE: Apr 1903, 648 E 13 St New York
    • RESIDENCE: Apr 1903, St Louis MO
    • RESIDENCE: 1910, Sophia Ave 22nd Ward St Louis Missouri
    • RESIDENCE: 1930, St Charles St St Ferdinand Twp St Louis Missouri
    • BIRTH: ABT 1867, Berlin
    • DEATH: 7 Sep 1933
    • BURIAL: New Mount Sinai Cemetery, St Louis Missouri

    Death Cert here (has a different year of birth, 1870, but same date of death)

    lowenhimDMo.pdf

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