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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    Was thinking the same.

    Doesn't it sound like a foiled robbery attempt, David?
    It could be but where is the evidence of the second man? I mean, who arrived at the scene first? Did the second man vanish too?

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
    Crumbs, look at that! A tall silk hat. Could he have been any more stereotypical Jack the Ripper?
    Was thinking the same.

    Doesn't it sound like a foiled robbery attempt, David? The coin in the umbrella might have been tossed down when the copper showed up and the man handing the parcel to PC Duffin? Almost seems as though he had taken it from Mrs. Byrne and then was caught red handed so he handed it to the cop and took off.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    The other man, who was wearing a tall silk hat, remarked, "I am her husband."
    Crumbs, look at that! A tall silk hat. Could he have been any more stereotypical Jack the Ripper?

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    It was in answer to my own post previously about a tradesman in Sun-Street. Then I found in the Star the tradesman was, Kennedy's Shoe Waehouse.
    Ah, right.

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
    What's the significance of this Jerry?
    It was in answer to my own post previously about a tradesman in Sun-Street. Then I found in the Star the tradesman was, Kennedy's Shoe Waehouse.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    On this was printed "Kennedy's Shoe Warehouse, Sun-street, Canterbury."
    What's the significance of this Jerry?

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    One report said she died of heart disease.
    Well the verdict of the inquest was "syncope" which could be almost anything.

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  • David Orsam
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    As for the deceased I did a little bit of preliminary work in Ancestry.

    Her maiden name was Nelson and she married John Byrne in circa 1877 (unconfirmed).

    At the time of her death she was living at 42A Broad Street in Canterbury.

    She had a son, Reginald John Matthew Byrne (born 1882) and she left a personal estate of just over £138.

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  • jerryd
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    Kennedy's Shoe Warehouse

    The Star
    MONDAY, 10 SEPTEMBER, 1888.


    A BLACKFRIARS MYSTERY.
    A Woman Found on the Pavement Dead and her "Husband" Missing.

    Shortly after eleven o'clock on Saturday night, while patrolling his beat in the Blackfriars-road, Constable M73 noticed a crowd assembled opposite the late Rowland Hill Chapel. A well-dressed young woman was lying on the pavement. There were two gentlemanly-looking men, one of whom was examining her. The police officer said, "Stand on one side." The other man, who was wearing a tall silk hat, remarked, "I am her husband." A surgeon could not be found, and the man wearing a tall hat remarked that "he would go himself in search of a medical man." The body was removed in an ambulance to the hospital, where the woman was found to be dead. The husband did not appear at the hospital, nor had he been seen up to a late hour last night. Before he left to go in search of a medical man he handed some property over to the police, consisting of a reticule, parasol with bow handle, mounted in silver, and a brush and comb in a white calico bag. The following is the description of the woman: - Age 27 years, height 5ft. 5in., complexion fair, eyes blue, hair light auburn, teeth very regular and white. Dress, black silk dress, with satin stripes, black silk bodice, mauve satin stomacher, mauve satin petticoat, two white line petticoats, flannel ditto, high laced-up boots, and dark stockings. On person gold watch and chain, gold bracelet jewelled, four rings - a wedding ring and keeper, and a ruby and emerald; one sovereign and a half in gold and two florins. On opening the umbrella another sovereign fell out. A paper parcel containing a pair of boots and other articles bore the name of a tradesman in Canterbury, Kent.
    The event is surrounded by mystery. One of our reporters called on Dr. Luard, at St. Thomas's Hospital, to see if he could ascertain the cause of death, and thereby gain a clue. "There is no evidence to show how she died," said the young doctor.
    The police know nothing of the strange affair either. The description already given of the woman is pretty correct, but the inspector at Kennington-road station is in entire ignorance of the man who is alleged to have been standing beside the woman when Constable 73 L arrived. The deceased woman was carrying a brown-paper parcel in her hand. On this was printed "Kennedy's Shoe Warehouse, Sun-street, Canterbury." Inside the paper was a pair of button boots, patent leather fronts, and on the paper was written - "Mrs Byrne, 42, Broad-street."
    The body has been removed to the parish mortuary awaiting identification. It was kept for some time at the hospital waiting for the arrival of the "husband," but he did not come.

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
    Yes I read that about the bruises in one report but it wasn't (apparently) mentioned at the inquest so presumably not true.
    One report said she died of heart disease.

    The St James Gazette also said the parcel had the name of a tradesman residing at Sun-Street, Canterbury.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    The St James Gazette adds that she had property of considerable value on her and superficial bruises on both shoulders indicating she had been roughly used.
    Yes I read that about the bruises in one report but it wasn't (apparently) mentioned at the inquest so presumably not true.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Harry D View Post
    Do you really have to prefix every post to Pierre like this? It's tiresome, and I can't be the only one who'd prefer you did your flirting in private.
    I don't care.

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  • jerryd
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    The St James Gazette adds that she had property of considerable value on her and superficial bruises on both shoulders indicating she had been roughly used.

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  • Harry D
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    Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
    My dear boy, how utterly uncharacteristic of you to evidently fail to understand a post on this forum.
    Do you really have to prefix every post to Pierre like this? It's tiresome, and I can't be the only one who'd prefer you did your flirting in private.

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  • David Orsam
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    Thanks Jerry.

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