How Are The Mighty Fallen

[Stewart P Evans]

A Lot

Anything Ally states is MUD.
I'm simply making an out in the open proposal
Pirate

You are going to have a lot to answer for laughing boy. In the past I have chosen not to mention the many errors contained in Paul's books and especially the A-Z. But I am sick to the teeth of your nonsense and although I have the greatest sympathy for Paul and his poor health (I'm not in the best of health myself either) I am, probably against my better judgement, going to start with the history of a gross error that has a long story and has infuriated more than one person that it misled.

[Jeff Leahy]

If Paul would like to come on board instead of Jeff, it might then be possible to have a reasonable conversation about how that chapter appears as very biased about Anderson.

Paul for his own reasons choses not to post on casebook.

He does post on JtRforums. But has not done so for some time due to ill health.

I see Paul regularly. Sometimes we discuss issues raised on casebook.

I asked Paul about your comments. He said "Anderson never gave a press conference'

He was correct in that comment

Yours Jeff

[Stewart P Evans]

Nonsense

Are you claiming that Anderson did call a press conference?
I thought you guys were into FACTS.
However if Stewart wished to debate his claims out in the open, and on camera. That is something that I am happy to provide for you all.
So the ball now is back in the anti-Anderson camp
Do you want to discuss this in open or behind closed doors?
Jeff Leahy
Producer/Director

Whatever is this nonsense? This post makes it look as if I have claimed that Anderson called a press conference. I don't know what he is talking about.

I am happy to discuss any aspect of the case with anyone face to face, but you don't think I would ever 'perform' for you, do you? I don't need to debate any claims as I deal in facts and opinions that I may draw from them on occasion.

You seem out to stir up trouble. Fine I am now preparing a long post regarding a bad error by your 'hero' that affected other commentators and even resulted in a historian being in error as he was using his work as a source.

I didn't really want go there and get into all this as I shall have 'personal attack' and 'sour grapes' screamed at me - but you have asked for it. If you want war you have got it, the gloves are off.

[Natalie Severn]

Where is Paul ?

If Paul would like to come on board instead of Jeff, it might then be possible to have a reasonable conversation about how that chapter appears as very biased about Anderson.

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Jeff. I fail to see how Ally's post in any way, shape or form referenced the 'press conference' debate you're having with Nats. And why should Stewart bother to talk about any of this 'on camera'? He's on a message board for Christ's sake.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Anything Ally states is MUD.

I'm simply making an out in the open proposal

Pirate

[Jeff Leahy]

How pathetic!Well I believe it was calling a press conference because the moment Anderson went public with his astonishing " confession" that he had lied in The Times articles his house in Linden Gardens was surrounded by a swarm of Journalists! He then allowed himself to be " interviewed by one of them. After this news of his lies was spread from agency to agency and became World News! If that isnt calling out the Press then what is.....?

Calling a press conference Norma is where you get on the phone to journalists a say 'hey I have something to say why dont you all come here and listen'

You have been disingenuous with the TRUTH

and that is what this is all about. Because I can here the Anti -Anderson squad squarking and I'm hearing NO substance.

Lets get it on camera?

Pirate

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Jeff. I fail to see how Ally's post in any way, shape or form referenced the 'press conference' debate you're having with Nats. And why should Stewart bother to talk about any of this 'on camera'? He's on a message board for Christ's sake.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jeff Leahy]

LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.

Are you claiming that Anderson did call a press conference?

I thought you guys were into FACTS.

However if Stewart wished to debate his claims out in the open, and on camera. That is something that I am happy to provide for you all.

So the ball now is back in the anti-Anderson camp

Do you want to discuss this in open or behind closed doors?

Jeff Leahy
Producer/Director

[Tom_Wescott]

LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.

Parrot Jack?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Natalie Severn]

Nit picker!

Anderson never called a 'press conference'.

Pirate

PS I think Paul does check the boards from time to time. I see him fairly regularly.

How pathetic!Well I believe it was calling a press conference because the moment Anderson went public with his astonishing " confession" that he had lied in The Times articles his house in Linden Gardens was surrounded by a swarm of Journalists! He then allowed himself to be " interviewed by one of them. After this news of his lies was spread from agency to agency and became World News! If that isnt calling out the Press then what is.....?

[Ally]

LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.

[Jeff Leahy]

What facts did I get wrong?

Anderson never called a 'press conference'.

Pirate

PS I think Paul does check the boards from time to time. I see him fairly regularly.

[Natalie Severn]

There is nothing to forgive Simon. You are a gentleman Sor!

There is always going to be disagreements about ‘balance’.

Norma is making claims which she is entitled to do, but if she gets facts incorrect then old dogs like Begg are going to spot them a mile off. And that does nothing for how her arguments are perceived in general.

As you well know Begg is no ones fool on the subject.

I am generally in agreement that Anderson is indeed a complex character to consider.

And I claim to be no expert. Until someone comes up with something more convincing however I don’t see that he lied about JtR. He may have got it wrong, yes. But I don’t by conspiracies.

Always good to read your comments however, and many thanks hopefully we shall meet one day.

Pirate

What facts did I get wrong?

[Tom_Wescott]

if she gets facts incorrect then old dogs like Begg are going to spot them a mile off.

You mean to say he's reading the boards as we speak? Then by all means, why doesn't he join in and set us straight with his superior information? I can only take so much from these novices like Evans. It's time to hear from a real expert.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Jeff Leahy]

A lie isn't a conspiracy.

That would depend what context someone placed it in.

Pirate