How Are The Mighty Fallen

[Jeff Leahy]

Thanks for nothing then Pirate, Paul or Jeff,.
Will Martin be appearing on the show shortly too?

Get real Norma. This level of debate is surely beneith you. I only expect it from Ally.

Pirate

[Ally]

q Stick to the FACTS and the topic or resort to personal abuse and lose

Pirate

Considering you were the first person who resorted to personal abuse, and you have lost, I'd say that's apt.

[Jeff Leahy]

Oh I am sorry, you must be completely clueless around me. I don't give a rat's butt if someone is down. I am not a hypocrite. Paul being ill does not in anyway change what Paul has done. Everyone is ill, everyone is dying, it's pretty much the human condition. But when you defend him, and defend his petty acts like that ridiculous book review, you show that you are the one who is talking utter tosh.

If you want people to stop telling a few home truths about Paul, seeing as how he is so down and all, why don't you quit with the rabid over-caffeinated cheerleader routine. He's not going to meet you behind the bleachers no matter how much you Begg.

Paul has done a great deal of damage and has fostered a great deal of ill-will. And frankly, what goes around, comes around. Maybe the title of this thread is apt after all.

No it doesnt but then it wasnt me that bought up paul being unwell in the first place it was the Anti Anderson camp who did so.

I simply confirmed what they were saying is true.

It also makes a mockery of your other allegations.

Why don't you simply take on board what Begg is saying?

If you wish to dispute Martin Fido you need to address his reasoning about Anderson and his conclusions and stop spewing out pointless and irrelevant mantra.

Stop trying to turn this into a circus about personality when there is a serious debate being had.

Pirate

[Natalie Severn]

Not that tiered old mantra. It's ridiculous and dragged up everytime you lose the basic arguement.

You made a miss-take about Anderson calling a 'press conference'.

get over it and own it.

I think you all have seriously under estimated me if you think Paul has had anything to do with my posts.

yes I talk to Paul regularly, yes Paul has explained his position to me.

Anyone can get the same by asking him or studying the odd book. indeed asking the right questions...

What's really niggling you all (anti-Anderson camp), after all is that I have presented a clear and reasonable argument that you have no answer to...

I suggest you get out the theology books written by Anderson and start doing some research, and answer Begg's fundamental question in relation to Fido's conclussion, as this is your only logical move forward.

I'll leave you to sleep on that. Stick to the FACTS and the topic or resort to personal abuse and lose

Pirate

Thanks for nothing then Pirate, Paul or Jeff,.
Will Martin be appearing on the show shortly too?

[Jeff Leahy]

We have now been over and over and over the above two points you have made on the thread ad nauseum.Move on!

In these last three pages "Paul and Pirate "or "Pirate and Paul" , have made , under the one posting name of " Pirate", a number of other "points" and "assertions" -too numerous to quote-which bring about a certain unease and a sense of being 'hoodwinked" by someone backstage who is "pulling the strings".This is because there is usually a "mismatch" between the tone and quality of one part of the post, written in a serious polemical style and the rest of the post written in the style of a joker! Its like being at a "Punch and Judy" show where the puppet master never actually makes an appearance but we all know he is there urging us all to hiss and boo and egging Punch on to whack someone with a totally inept swing that misses its target by a mile!
Could we stop being treated to this charade please.
Thankyou,
Norma

Not that tiered old mantra. It's ridiculous and dragged up everytime you lose the basic arguement.

You made a miss-take about Anderson calling a 'press conference'.

get over it and own it.

I think you all have seriously under estimated me if you think Paul has had anything to do with my posts.

yes I talk to Paul regularly, yes Paul has explained his position to me.

Anyone can get the same by asking him or studying the odd book. indeed asking the right questions...

What's really niggling you all (anti-Anderson camp), after all is that I have presented a clear and reasonable argument that you have no answer to...

I suggest you get out the theology books written by Anderson and start doing some research, and answer Begg's fundamental question in relation to Fido's conclussion, as this is your only logical move forward.

I'll leave you to sleep on that. Stick to the FACTS and the topic or resort to personal abuse and lose

Pirate

[Ally]

Oh I am sorry, you must be completely clueless around me. I don't give a rat's butt if someone is down. I am not a hypocrite. Paul being ill does not in anyway change what Paul has done. Everyone is ill, everyone is dying, it's pretty much the human condition. But when you defend him, and defend his petty acts like that ridiculous book review, you show that you are the one who is talking utter tosh.

If you want people to stop telling a few home truths about Paul, seeing as how he is so down and all, why don't you quit with the rabid over-caffeinated cheerleader routine. He's not going to meet you behind the bleachers no matter how much you Begg.

Paul has done a great deal of damage and has fostered a great deal of ill-will. And frankly, what goes around, comes around. Maybe the title of this thread is apt after all.

[Jeff Leahy]

Yeah it's so much better to do what Paul does: email people with his slanders and his criticisms about others. At least Paul has the option here of knowing what's being said and can defend himself if he wants to, which is something Paul's victims dont' always get the option to do.

Is this multi posting thing a new craze on casebook?

Yes Paul should be ashamed of it, I agree.
People who can't say publicly what they are oh so willing to say privately should be shamed. Rare that they ever are though.

I think it reasonable to assume that when anyone is down Ally you will put the boot in. Likely most of us have worked out that she is simply balmy.

More hot air Ally and no substance?

Pirate

[Jeff Leahy]

And people say I am the reason why there can be no civilized debate on the boards.

No they say that because you talk utter tosh

[Natalie Severn]

Dont be frightened of the two headed monster ,Chaps!

There are only two pionts I have made on this thread.

1. Paul Begg has never said that Anderson could NOT LIE. FACT

2. In addressing a claim made by Naterlie that Anderson 'Called a Press conference' I claimed he had NOT. FACT.

Everything else on your part is assumption.

Pirate

PS can we now keep any correspondence to one post per reply?

We have now been over and over and over the above two points you have made on the thread ad nauseum.Move on!

In these last three pages "Paul and Pirate "or "Pirate and Paul" , have made , under the one posting name of " Pirate", a number of other "points" and "assertions" -too numerous to quote-which bring about a certain unease and a sense of being 'hoodwinked" by someone backstage who is "pulling the strings".This is because there is usually a "mismatch" between the tone and quality of one part of the post, written in a serious polemical style and the rest of the post written in the style of a joker! Its like being at a "Punch and Judy" show where the puppet master never actually makes an appearance but we all know he is there urging us all to hiss and boo and egging Punch on to whack someone with a totally inept swing that misses its target by a mile!
Could we stop being treated to this charade please.
Thankyou,
Norma

[Ally]

[B]

At least he doesn’t come on a public message washing his laundry in public and calling your objectivity into question.

Yeah it's so much better to do what Paul does: email people with his slanders and his criticisms about others. At least Paul has the option here of knowing what's being said and can defend himself if he wants to, which is something Paul's victims dont' always get the option to do.

I find this level of personal abuse frankly somewhat childish and disappointing in an author who I hold in such high regard.

Yes Paul should be ashamed of it, I agree.
People who can't say publicly what they are oh so willing to say privately should be shamed. Rare that they ever are though.

[Ally]

And people say I am the reason why there can be no civilized debate on the boards.

[Jeff Leahy]

Sorry to hear Paul is ill. Jeff please pass on my best wishes for his recovery.

Hi Robert

I’m not certain that this subject is within my remit but it was raised and it is true.

I’m fairly certain he is aware of the support he has in Ripper circles. Lets hope he is back and his old self in time for the Beadle lecture.

Many thanks for your concerns I will pass them on when I can

Jeff

[Robert]

Sorry to hear Paul is ill. Jeff please pass on my best wishes for his recovery.

[Jeff Leahy]

Since when was the subject of this thread about Anderson calling a press conference? As far as I'm concerned you were out for a duck ages ago. Furthermore, don't keep inanely repeating yourself.

There are only two pionts I have made on this thread.

1. Paul Begg has never said that Anderson could NOT LIE. FACT

2. In addressing a claim made by Naterlie that Anderson 'Called a Press conference' I claimed he had NOT. FACT.

Everything else on your part is assumption.

Pirate

PS can we now keep any correspondence to one post per reply?

[Jeff Leahy]

It's not personal abuse - it's fact. And many agree with me. I really don't give a fig what you think of me, I'd rather have no contact or debate with you at all.

Many agreeing with you is not FACT its popular opinion.