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    I've read that there are no photos of Abberline, and only one drawing.

    However, I have stumbled across this drawing. Does anyone know its provenance? I'd like to get one high-res image for use in my book, if poss.

    Helena
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    Helena Wojtczak BSc (Hons) FRHistS.

    Author of 'Jack the Ripper at Last? George Chapman, the Southwark Poisoner'. Click this link : - http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/chapman.html

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    Helena - in Stewart Evan's book "Scotland Yard Investigates" there is a group picture which may contain an image of Abberline. There are two possible candidates.

    If you check this site for threads you should find a long discussion about the merits of the images in question.

    Phil H

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    • #3
      Hi Phil

      Yes, I read some of the threads about the images. Any idea where this one I have posted comes from?

      Regards

      Helena
      Helena Wojtczak BSc (Hons) FRHistS.

      Author of 'Jack the Ripper at Last? George Chapman, the Southwark Poisoner'. Click this link : - http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/chapman.html

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      • #4
        Toby

        Hi Helena,

        The image is from Toby, discovered by Nick Connell back in 1999 while researching for the book The Man Who Hunted Jack the Ripper which he co-authored with Stewart Evans.

        Stewart kindly posted a couple of page pages from Toby here:

        http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=10020&page=2

        Best wishes
        Adam

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        • #5
          Thanks for all that Adam!
          Helena Wojtczak BSc (Hons) FRHistS.

          Author of 'Jack the Ripper at Last? George Chapman, the Southwark Poisoner'. Click this link : - http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/chapman.html

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          • #6
            The Group Picture

            Originally posted by Phil H View Post
            Helena - in Stewart Evan's book "Scotland Yard Investigates" there is a group picture which may contain an image of Abberline. There are two possible candidates.

            If you check this site for threads you should find a long discussion about the merits of the images in question.

            Phil H
            Hi Helena et al,

            Scotland Yard Investigates was co-authored by Stewart Evans and Donald Rumbelow. My understanding is that Don was more convinced than Stewart that the figure in the group photograph was Abberline.

            Regards, Bridewell.
            Regards, Bridewell.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HelenaWojtczak View Post
              I've read that there are no photos of Abberline, and only one drawing.

              However, I have stumbled across this drawing. Does anyone know its provenance? I'd like to get one high-res image for use in my book, if poss.

              Helena
              There are at least three drawings, Helena. Here are the other two well known drawings, both of them newspaper sketches.



              Christopher T. George
              Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
              just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
              For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
              RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
                There are at least three drawings, Helena. Here are the other two well known drawings, both of them newspaper sketches.



                Cheers Chris, but is there one online or email-able that is high enough res that I could print it in a book? I wonder ....

                Helena
                Helena Wojtczak BSc (Hons) FRHistS.

                Author of 'Jack the Ripper at Last? George Chapman, the Southwark Poisoner'. Click this link : - http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/chapman.html

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                • #9
                  This guy, in my opinion, is Abberline.

                  Rob H
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
                    This guy, in my opinion, is Abberline.

                    Rob H
                    Hi Rob

                    Yes I would agree that the chap you have indicated is more consistent with the man pictured in the Toby drawing than the other candidates in the photograph which to my mind don't look like the magazine image.

                    Chris
                    Christopher T. George
                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                    just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                    For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                    RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HelenaWojtczak View Post
                      Cheers Chris, but is there one online or email-able that is high enough res that I could print it in a book? I wonder ....

                      Helena
                      Hi Helena

                      I have sent you a private message on this matter.

                      Best regards

                      Chris
                      Christopher T. George
                      Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                      just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                      For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                      RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                      • #12
                        Holy crap, I've totally missed that guy over there.

                        You're quite right, Rob. Clearly a credible candidate, I agree.

                        Originally posted by robhouse View Post
                        This guy, in my opinion, is Abberline.

                        Rob H
                        The Swedes are the Men that Will not Be Blamed for Nothing

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                        • #13
                          Hi Glenn

                          Welcome back.

                          Hope the moustache is keeping well.

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                          • #14
                            I too would like to welcome you back, Glenn. We met up some years ago, in Bath - if you remember. It is a day I recall fondly and found fascinating.

                            Your contribution to Casebook was always of great value.

                            Hope you are keeping well, prospering and will be seen here often.

                            Phil H

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                            • #15
                              Welcome back Glenn. You haven't missed much.

                              RH

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