Front or Rear attack?

[Batman]

The medical evidence doesn't suggest a rear attack at all. It is easy to have this image of a punter asking her to bend over and then slicing the neck. If he did it this way there would be a splatter very different from what the evidence revealed.

What the evidence says is something quite unique to JtRs MO. He appears to prefer a frontal blitz. Pushing them down onto their back first, strangling them into unconsciousness but not death. Then he cuts. That's why the blood pooled the way it did.

[Trevor Marriott]

or sliced their throats as mutilation

In any event, I think the overwhelming majoritarian view is that Nichols, Chapman, and Eddowes had their throats cut while they were on the ground. I don't think anyone favors a "cut while standing" model for any of these three killings.

I do !

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[Sherlock Holmes]

OK why is that Jon?

[Wickerman]

I think the medical evidence might sway you otherwise Mr Holmes.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Of course the victims had their throats cut from behind, if they were cut from the front. The killer would have been covered in the spray from the arteries in the neck. He was either too careful to take the risk or too smart for that. .
That should give you all something to think about

Regards
Mr Holmes

[Damaso Marte]

Strangled them from the front, laid them down, and sliced their throats to be sure?

or sliced their throats as mutilation

In any event, I think the overwhelming majoritarian view is that Nichols, Chapman, and Eddowes had their throats cut while they were on the ground. I don't think anyone favors a "cut while standing" model for any of these three killings.

I haven't heard the Nichols or Chapman facial wounds explained as punching before - that's certainly interesting.

[Gman992]

Strangled them from the front, laid them down, and sliced their throats to be sure?

[Stephen Lee]

I've never been sure about this.

Their is a lot to be said about attacking from the rear. He would have been able to get to his knife unobserved. It would have given him the element of surprise. He would have caught the victims off balance as he dragged them back on their heels to the ground. A hand over the mouth area so they couldn't cry out (and causing the bruises). The injuries were performed once they were face up on the ground thou. They would have been too shocked (and drunk) to fight back.

Thou Annie Chapman may have kicked the fence when she was on the ground and managed to cry out.

[lynn cates]

frontal assault

Hello Batman.

"Schwartz reported seeing a frontal assault on Stride."

Yes. And that is the #1 reason why I dismiss his story. Liz could not have possibly died in a frontal assault.

Cheers.
LC

[gnote]

I believe the majority of experts both medical and otherwise think the killer attacked from the front.

[Rosella]

I am old enough to remember Donald Rumbelow's speculation in his original edition of 'The Complete Jack the Ripper' that Jack's victims, (with the exception of Mary Kelly of course) had their backs to him and faces to the nearest wall/fence when first attacked. This was to facilitate easier sexual penetration.

Rumbelow moved away from that in the latest edition and talks about the facial bruising and marks on some of the victims which made it appear that Jack may have punched them from the front immediately before killing them.

Rumbelowe was mistaken about Annie Chapman's punch in the eye which was the result of an earlier fight, but certainly, Polly Nichols had marks on her jawline both left and right which seem to point to a frontal attack.

[Batman]

Ever since the Ustinov's "The Secret Identity of Jack the Ripper" I was led to believe that JtR struck from behind, hand over mouth, right hand going left to right.

However after reading books and autopsy reports, the bruising seems to suggest that JtR accousted them from the front, pushed them down, put pressure over the face and chest and while on their right side slashed from their left to right so the blood would spray right and away from them. The killer ripped from left to right and didn't move between the legs at any time.

Schwartz reported seeing a frontal assault on Stride. Lewande reported Eddowes had her hand on the suspects chest.

Mary Kelly prevented JtR from going on the right because the partition blocked this side of the bed.