How realistic was it for JTR to disguise himself as a PC?

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post

    I'm talking about the dark area that can be seen by looking into the arched entrance! Not the window at the very front facing the street. The window facing the street would have been boarded up, but the other one would have been seen by anyone entering the archway.
    There was no window inside the archway, and I can't imagine why there would be. Not much point in having a window looking directly into a passage barely a metre wide.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    How would he have known such a detail?
    We have detailed maps, fire insurance plans (etc) which allow us to be very accurate when overlaying images of Victorian and modern London.

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Incidentally, you'll notice from Andrew Firth's montage that the original frontages of the houses in Dorset Street stood several feet in front of the new buildings that replaced them after they were demolished.
    How would he have known such a detail?

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

    It wasn't. I've been there myself, on many occasions, and nothing of the old Miller's Court was to be seen. Not one brick, slate or paving stone.
    I'm talking about the dark area that can be seen by looking into the arched entrance! Not the window at the very front facing the street. The window facing the street would have been boarded up, but the other one would have been seen by anyone entering the archway.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post

    …...BEFORE the carpark was completed...…...one last Ripper walk.
    Not so. That footage was shot on a mobile phone, and the car park was built in 1971, decades before such technology became available. Indeed, the date under the video clip is 2011, so the car park had been there for 40 years already.
    Last edited by Sam Flynn; 05-03-2019, 06:19 AM.

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by c.d. View Post
    Hello Leanne,

    I was wondering if you were the Leanne of old when I saw your above post. Welcome back. Sorry to hear of your Mother's passing but it is nice to have you back posting again.

    c.d.
    THANKS c.d.

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    RELAX SAM,

    All I am trying to is examine this video recording and open the possibility that it was filmed in the final remains of the entrance passage to Millers Court, before the carpark was completed:
    …...BEFORE the carpark was completed...…...one last Ripper walk.

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  • c.d.
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    Hello Leanne,

    I was wondering if you were the Leanne of old when I saw your above post. Welcome back. Sorry to hear of your Mother's passing but it is nice to have you back posting again.

    c.d.

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  • Leanne
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    Map of Miller's Court

    Above is a diagrame of Millers Court. I believe there was an open window to No 26 (Storage) in the covered passage viewable to any residents entering from Dorset Street. The large window at the front would have been the one that was boarded up.
    OK any discussion on this can now be moved to the appropriate board. But above is the post which started it all here.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    OK. What about the old photo Andrew Firth used, were did he get that?
    It's from Leonard Matters' book The Mystery of Jack the Ripper, published in 1929. The photograph was taken just before the demolition of Dorset Street.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    https://www.jack-the-ripper-tour.com...dorset-street/

    Have a look at the overlay of the buildings that were put there in the 1920's made by Andrew Firth. His Victorian photo shows the entrance of Millers Court viewed from an angle that shows the wall in question. Is that a window?
    Yes. There was a window that fronted the front room of 27 Dorset Street, which John McCarthy used as a store-room for barrows and other paraphernalia. Whether it was boarded/bricked-up I don't know, but even if it wasn't, there was no way to access Mary Kelly's room from the front of the house, as it had been partitioned off and was only accessible from the back door to No 13 Miller's Court.

    Incidentally, you'll notice from Andrew Firth's montage that the original frontages of the houses in Dorset Street stood several feet in front of the new buildings that replaced them after they were demolished.

    PS: Interesting as this is, it's well off-topic for the subject of this thread.

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  • Leanne
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    OK. What about the old photo Andrew Firth used, were did he get that?

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    All I am trying to is examine this video recording and open the possibility that it was filmed in the final remains of the entrance passage to Millers Court, before the carpark was completed
    It wasn't. I've been there myself, on many occasions, and nothing of the old Miller's Court was to be seen. Not one brick, slate or paving stone.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Leanne View Post
    I'm hoping that I've found the only footage of that passage (NOT THE ENTIRE MILLERS COURT OR ROOM 13)
    You haven't. Miller's Court, indeed the entire northern part of Dorset Street, was flattened and built over, in 1928.
    If everything was completely destroyed for the Mary Kelly part of the tour, how did anyone know where the entrance once was?
    In the same way that one can stand in many parts of a modern city whilst knowing that such-and-such building once stood there.

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  • Leanne
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    A photo essay that looks at the demolition of Dorset Street and Miller's Court, scene of the Jack the Ripper murder of Mary Kelly.


    Here is that writing of Richard Jones.

    Have a look at the overlay of the buildings that were put there in the 1920's made by Andrew Firth. His Victorian photo shows the entrance of Millers Court viewed from an angle that shows the wall in question. Is that a window?

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