Why do you think Jack stopped?

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  • niko
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    mission accomplished.

    Hi everyone, I mentioned on post 33 that Jack could of stopped because he accompilshed his mission, but what was his mission ?

    1) Was his mission to murder all this poor women,(and was paid for it)

    2) Was his mission a religious sort and he accomplished it.

    3) Was his mission revenge on this type of women (it's obvious he attacked prostitutes, at least in my eye's) and his revenge was fulfilled.

    4) Was it a mission ordered by someone to fulfill a ritual of some kind and was fulfilled.

    5) Or simply he died on his mission.

    It's just as differcult to answer why he stopped, as if to why he started, all the best, agur.

    niko

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  • Malcolm X
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    serial killers never stop.....no, but they do die or switch M.O, or move on and kill elsewhere.... the most likely scenario is that JTR either died before he was about to start killing again, or he switched M.O

    he stopped totally and lived to old age ?...... extremely unlikely, because for a savage mutilator he's too screwed up inside, he's too extreme to stop.

    this is not a hit man style drive by shootist, whose a serial killer, yet also a take it or leave it type of killer, JTR is obsessive, compulsive, semi- insane, he's like Bundy, Sutcliffe, Fred West etc, they're born to kill
    Last edited by Malcolm X; 01-09-2012, 05:14 PM.

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  • Malcolm X
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    he didn't stop right away, he downgraded first and then stopped

    why?..... because as GH or the bloke he saw, he was either too well known to the police, or seen too well by GH, far too well, and can easily be Identified later on, thus in both instances JTR is screwed.... FACT.

    OR.....MJK is the last of 5 sacrafices needed, nothing more is required after this, this is born out by the fact that her heart was taken away.

    you can easily argue in court that you weren't seen well enough and all of the suspect descriptions bear evidence of this, but not LA DE DA, he was stared at full face for quite some time, there are no ifs and buts here, JTR was seen too well to defend himself easily, he would be seriously mauled in court by the prosecution, simply because GH would definitely recognise him; even years later!
    Last edited by Malcolm X; 01-09-2012, 04:55 PM.

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  • DVV
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    It's interesting to note that, while police officials voiced conflicting opinions as to the Ripper identity, most of them agreed that Mary was the last victim, and more importantly gave the same explanation for it.
    The way they expressed it makes us smile (see Mac memo), and was indeed based on outdated medical theories, but there could be some truth in it. Nowadays, some may say the killer reached the end of his "emotional rope" in Miller's Court - like Kemper after he murdered his mother.

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  • richardnunweek
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    Hi.
    Quite possibly he had become known to the police, if only.. just a unsuspecting interview, either that, or he had finished his gruesome work after killing Kelly, for those who find a motive, the real reason for these murders.
    The latter is a intriguing possibility .
    Regards Richard.

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  • niko
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    Originally posted by Rubyretro View Post
    Maybe he lost his knife ?
    Nice one Ruby, he could of well lost his knife,lol, remember the saying "finders keepers losers weepers", all the best, agur.

    niko

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  • RedBundy13
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    Serial Killers Stoping their Work

    Yes it is true that serial killers will just stop on their own but usually there is something major or drastic that happens prior to them quiting. Maybe the police had got too close or something went wrong on their last victim or maybe something just changed at home. But whatever the reason, there is usually something. And then the killer will stop for a period, maybe even for ever. But he/she might decide to start up again only this time using a different MO. Im not saying that it is a for sure that they would change it i'm just saying that a smart killer might decide to do that. That of coarse would only happen if the killers main objective was to kill. Not if the main goal was for notoriety and seeing their name in the news. If that was the case then the killer would most likely continue the same way he has started.
    I don't believe that that was the case for the Ripper, I believe his main goal was the mutilation and murder of his victim. Otherwise, in my opinion if his goal was fame, I believe he would have continued to murder in the same manner as before.
    So in other words I think something major had happened to the Ripper following Kelly's murder that made him take a break from 'his work'. And I do believe that if he didn't die of course, that he would have started up again in his future. Only this time changing his m.o. because for whatever reason, someone was close to catching him after MJK. And if people believed the Ripper was dead or in exile and wasn't commiting anymore crimes, then the person who was hot on his trail before wouldn't suspect he was back to work again.
    If anyone follows all that? (I'm not sure I even do hahah)

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    The idea that serial killers never stop is another outdated notion from the early days of profiling. Most serial killers stop on their own.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • K-453
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    "Serial killers never stop."

    I'm wondering if there is a clear distinction between 'serial killer' and 'not serial killer'. I mean: Serial killers on one side, 'normal' people on the other, and absolutely NOTHING in the large gap between?

    Could there be a smooth transition between the one and the other?

    Maybe there are people who do not have an irresistible urge to kill, but only a tendency to do so - and can resist it - or not ...

    Maybe someone, who had been quite 'normal' for most of his life, drifts into a state of mind that makes him kill, and after a while drifts back out again.


    Maybe 'Jack' fell in love, and that made him stop?

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  • DVV
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    Why he stopped

    Why did Kemper call the police after he killed Mummy ?
    Not that I believe Jack was Kelly's son, aaargh...

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  • RedBundy13
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    Why he stopped

    There could be many different reasons for why he may have stopped but what I have always thought was that, he thought, for what ever reason, that the police were getting too close to him. It was the biggest operation in Scotland Yards history at that time with the sole intent of bringing the perpetrator to justice. I think, with the massive man-hunt taking place, that it is highly likely that he was stopped and questioned about where he was or about what he was doing at the time of the murders. Or maybe the Yard had searched his house or place of residence and for whatever reason, never put two and two together and linked him to the crimes. But, after the search or the interview with police he was so worried that he had messed up on something and the police were very close to catching him that he never commited the same crime (at least in the same mannor) ever again. I think his fear of the gallows had over taken his lust or his need for murder and that is why he quit.

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  • lynn cates
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    idea

    Hello Velma. Well, first one would need to go through free BMD for deaths. Then, I presume "Lloyd's" could be checked to see who was up at the police stations etc.

    I have all the "Lloyd's" from 1888. Would just take patience.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Robert
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    I've no idea why he stopped. Maybe he just got fed up with the stink of faeces and urine. Who knows?

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  • curious
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Barnaby. In which case it would seem relatively easy to verify. I suppose one could start with lists of those who died within a month, say, of MJK (possibly 2 months) and check for profile, abnormal behaviour, etc. Old papers could be used.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Interesting ideas, Barnaby and Lynn. Very time consuming I would think. How many papers would have to be checked, Lynn?

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  • lynn cates
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    verification

    Hello Barnaby. In which case it would seem relatively easy to verify. I suppose one could start with lists of those who died within a month, say, of MJK (possibly 2 months) and check for profile, abnormal behaviour, etc. Old papers could be used.

    Cheers.
    LC

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