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  • loneassassin
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    I was looking at the dates a while back and like other "occult crimes" (e.g. Son of Sam, Zodiac, etc) I think that there is something to them, but exactly what I cannot be totally sure.

    But, what I noticed was that Jack the Ripper committed his crimes on the following dates:

    1) Nichols--August 31
    2) Chapman--September 8
    3) Stride & Eddowes--September 30
    4) Kelly--November 11

    1) 8+31=39
    2) 9+8=17
    3) 9+30=39 (again)
    4) 11+9=20

    So what I noticed was that these dates include numbers that have been associated with occult philosophy for a long time now. For instance, both 1 and 3, when you add the numbers total 39 and this number according to mysticism (e.g. Kabbalah, Masonry etc) has traditionally held a certain occult, even sinister, significance to it. For no. 4 you need only google the numbers together to find out a wide array of opinions as to its meaning (especially after 9/11). So I'm sure there's more to the picture than meets the eye but I definitely believe that it's no coincidence he--or they--chose the dates that he did to commit his killing spree.

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  • JTRSickert
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    Maybe Ivor Edwards will use this post to further his Vesica Piscis/Black magic theory. LOL

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  • The Good Michael
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    About patterns: Why would a date be more important than a time? Why would one location be more important than another? How does an indoor murder fit in? Or does it? Why this organ or that organ? One can discard a ton of things to look for a non-inclusive pattern in any direction one wants to look. But why? If you don't know why he did what he did, it's impossible to discern a coherent pattern that answers all these questions. Why is that, do you suppose? Well, it's quite probably because a lot of randomness was involved.

    Possible randomness factors:

    1. Work schedule (if he worked)
    2. Ability to sneak away from family members(if he had them)
    3. Money for drinking (liquid courage)
    4. Money to show victims (if this is what he used to gain trust)
    5. Shore leave (assuming he worked a ship)
    6. Inability to find a suitable victim (solitary, age, location et.al.)

    So, if we know motive, and we know all these other factors, maybe there's a pattern to be seen. Then again, the pattern may just be a combination of randomness factors listed or unlisted and have nothing to do with anything but his opportunities.

    This is what I'm opting for.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • DVV
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    Hi JTRS,

    I think the time-pattern, if there is any, has more to do with weekends and bank holidays.

    Amitiés,
    David

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  • smezenen
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    I haven't given much thought to a pattern, but another thought did cross my mind while reading your post.

    Here are the 2 things you said that started the little wheel turning in my head.
    1-You say we have to assume Tabram is a ripper victim, (I’m still on the fence there)
    2-You state “no murders in October hence no pattern”.

    Ok, so here is the thought, (I’m ready for everyone to rip this apart because I know its speculation) if Tabram is an un-attributed ripper victim could there be others maybe during the month of October and possibly even in other cities that were never connected to, or attributed to the Ripper that if attributed would help show a clear pattern?

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  • JTRSickert
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    Time Pattern of the Killings

    I'm not sure if this has been brought up before in the forums, but has anyone ever thought about the pattern that seems to emerge with the murders? It seems like JTR prefers to kill at the beginning and end of each month starting in August through November. Now, granted. the dates don't match up exactly apart, but they are pretty darn close. For the sake of argument, we have to assume that Martha Tabram is a Ripper victim, but if we do, we see the pattern.

    Murders occuring in the beginning of the month.

    1. Martha Tabram-murdered 7 August 1888

    2. Annie Chapman-murdered 8 September 1888

    3. Mary Kelly-murdered 9 November 1888

    Murders occuring at the end of the month

    1. Mary Ann Nichols-murdered 31 August 1888

    2. Elizabeth Stride (?)/Catherine Eddowes-30 September 1888

    Now, I know what immediatedly everyone will notice. There are no murders in October; hence, no pattern. However, perhaps the killer was not in London at that time or decided to take a break because the heat was turned up by the press/police after the double homicide. And, in November, he just decided to pick up where he left off. It is interesting to note the killings that take place in the early times of the month follow a sequential order (7, 8, & 9) and the murders at the end of the month are practically exactly one month apart. Does this mean anything? If so, what? Also, does the pattern show us when his bloodlust was heightened and cooled (beginning and end of each month) Even if there is no pattern, it is still pretty interesting.
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