Serial Killers, A pattern???

[KatBradshaw]

I do like to think outside the box but I think this theory is way to far from the box to even be called outside!

I mean the geo profiling. The idea that we can detect the killers probable home or working place by looking at the kill zone.

[corey123]

Boxes

While on the topic of boxes, as a response to your statement

" If find it odd"

Its good to think outside of boxes.

ps Earlier were you saying my narcissism theory made sense or the one that dealt with his Geo profile??

yours truly

[KatBradshaw]

We have none and I don't know enough about the Tabram case to comment really on her likelihood as a Ripper victim.

I just find your idea that she was killed by someone else then stabbed by the Ripper really odd.

[corey123]

Kate,

thats not necissarily my prefered senerio but it works.

But yes the profile doesnt make her a ripper victim, but what better suspect do we have for her?

yours truly

[KatBradshaw]

That isnt really relavent, and no concreit answer can arise.

I disagree here. How would he happen upon a murdered woman in this building?? Surely that is the key to your theory that he found her.

And most beginning crimes by serial murders are almost near opposite to their capital crimes. If anyone else out of the canonicals fit his profile it is her. Where the throat, abdomen, and private parts were the targets as were with the canonicles. Also going from a stab to a rip isnt a big jump. Another thing there was one that was more of a rip than a stab.

I agree she fits the profile well, that doesn't make her a Ripper victim though. I think it is far more likely that she was killed by the Ripper than that the Ripper discovered her body and decided to turn her in to a human pin cushion.

[corey123]

david,

Thats a strange way to see things.

yours truly

[DVV]

I dont think Jack met Kate in Aldgate. I think she had a bit of very rotten luck and was picked up in his primary comfort zone, then she led him to mitre square for god knows why and he deemed the location secure.

Yours truly

Hi Corey,

in fact, Jack and Kate were walking back to Bishopsgate Police Station, the latter erroneously assuming that PC Hutt was ready for a threesome experience.
Passing Mitre Square, they met PC Watkins.
Watkins or Hutt, it made no difference for Jack.
And he was exhausted, having run from St George (indeed, the mere memory of Schwartz' face still filled him with dread).
Unfortunately, Kate was to find Watkins' face distateful to the extreme.
Excessively long and narrow.
The over-sensitive constable got hurt and cawed: " Take care, I'll give you a nice hiding if I see you around again!"
He headed then proudly to the Church passage.
As the echo of his heels died away, Jack lost control.

Amitiés,
David

[corey123]

That isnt really relavent, and no concreit answer can arise. And most beginning crimes by serial murders are almost near opposite to their capital crimes. If anyone else out of the canonicals fit his profile it is her. Where the throat, abdomen, and private parts were the targets as were with the canonicles. Also going from a stab to a rip isnt a big jump. Another thing there was one that was more of a rip than a stab.

[KatBradshaw]

Well not really if you compare it to the case of the Yorkshire Ripper.
It could be he stabbed with one knife and then decided the other one he had was better.
You would have to question why Jack was inside that building in the first place to find Martha.

[corey123]

Not as it seems, there were 39 stab wounds, one which could have been caused by a dagger the rest by a pen knife. This is whats farfetched, a killer stabbing a women once with one weapon then changing knifes to stab her 38 more times.
I prefer both senerios but the one I described is more logical.

But then you have another senerio I like, is when he could have made the other wound look as if it was done by another knife, but that depeneds on if they seperated the two wound typed by depth or width.

[KatBradshaw]

That seems very far fetched to me Corey.

[corey123]

No,

I believe the first murder commited by jack the ripper(on record that we know about) is that of martha tabram.

For several reasons.

Which if you like I can state them.

That is where I get confused, why return to his home base??

Well I dont think jack killed her.

Now Your confused I know but I will clearify.

I think he stumbled upon her body(hence one stab wound differered from the rest,sternum)
And preceaded to stab her 38 times.

yours truly

[Ben]

Hi Corey,

Remember that Goulston Street was a well known hotspot for the Jewish occupancy. If the GSG location was close to his bolt-hole, he could still have been "throwing off the police" in the direction of the Jewish community, which, courtesy of "Leather Apron", had already become a popular target for ripper-related suspicion.

I have little doubt that the ripper's comfort zone encompassed Goulston Street.

Best regards,
Ben

[KatBradshaw]

They are interesting plots Corey and I can see the theory from which you are working. I think his 'zone' is bigger though.
Are you taking Buck's Row as closest to his home because this is the first canonical murder? This assumes that this was the first attack, which I don't believe it was.

[corey123]

Geographic profile

Here are three variations.

One:
Shows bucks row then to hanbury st, then to berner st, then to millers court.

Two:
Shows hanbury st to berner st to millers court.

Three:
Hanbury to benerer to mitre to millers.