Hi Pirate,
Your suggestion is the most plusible explanation , if one puts aside all ones theories, that proberly are a load of twaddle, the simpliest answer is proberly the truth.
I am of the opinion that Maxwells market porter killed Mary Kelly around 9am, whether he was JTR, i cannot say , it points to that however, i appreciate that this goes against all Ripperology, but thats my opinion, was he Schizophrenic? i dont know.
Regards Richard.
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Why did they Stop?
I always find it surprising that given the number of schizophrenic suspects that no one has ever considered that the time frame of the autumn of terror is almost identical to the time frame of a psychotic episode experienced during the condition.
Schizophrenia hits the sufferer in 12 to 16 week cycles with each cycle getting progressively worse with varied periods of normality in between. Sometimes weeks, sometimes months.
As following cycles can become progressively worse, its possible that the sufferer would be unable to function at all in following attacks but might have been able to function in early attacks. Followed by periods of NORMALITY. Which can vary from person to person. While most schizophrenics are completely harmless, in fact a danger only to themselves, under certain conditions they can become highly dangerous especially if using other drugs or alcohol. Didn’t BS have the appearance of a drunk man?
So the ‘why’ did the murders stop could just be the result of a condition called Schizophrenia.
Pirate
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hi Dave
i dont think his work had anything to do with being for the public. I see him as completely oblivious to the public...doing his own thing.
He could have manipulated Police and public perception at Miller's Court but he chose not to. He merely killed, mutilated, left.
Outside concerns were, imo, irrelevant to his thought processes except where they imposed themselves inevitably (eg escaping from the crime scene without detection).
just my opinion as always
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Going on the basis that these were sexual kills, being satisfied and stopping is simply not an option. If you have sex you may be satisfied awhile...But the urge is gonna come back, and his preference in sexual perversion is not going to change as sexuallity is deeply embedded.
He may have been caught but then, if all his "work" was done to show the public what he was capable of, then why would he not take credit for it once he was caught ? Unless of course he was caught for something trivial which didnt call for the death penalty. But then wouldnt he be on the street again killing soon after a release.
He may have been done in by someone in prison, but surly they would bragg.
I dont think he committed suicide Because he seemed to enjoy what he was doing. He was not guilty or remorseful at all.
I dont think he was ill, as it has already been brought up earlier in this thread, and he appears quite strong and eligible.
Did he die?..Well maybe, maybe an accident ?
So still I believe the most likley result is he moved away from the areaLast edited by Daveshredder; 06-01-2009, 12:31 AM.
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Hi folks,
Surely it is obvious that the series ended With Kelly, was it a question of complete satisfaction on a kill, or was he caught, and refered to a institution for the insane, or did he top himself?, or was he murdered, or did he die from any kind of nineteenth century natural cause.
Jack did not vanish across continents, the answer lies within the above.
Regards Richard.
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Originally posted by perrymason View PostHi jason,
We dont know when he went out, or for how long, or if he went out on any other nights than the ones we are told he likely killed on, if he worked until midnight first.....
The suspect "trawling" around suggests he was looking for opportunity vs locations....the fact that 5 murders he is assumed to have committed were all within 1 sq mile might indicate the general location was important.
If for example the killer is a slaughterhouse man who gets off at midnight in Spitalfield, how much trawling would be needed? 5 minutes....maybe?
Best regards Jason
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by jason_c View PostHe wasnt just out on the streets in the morning. The killer was trawling around Whitechapel much of the night.
Depending on his home circumstances, I believe it likely that someone close to JtR had suspiscions of him.
We dont know when he went out, or for how long, or if he went out on any other nights than the ones we are told he likely killed on, if he worked until midnight first.....
The suspect "trawling" around suggests he was looking for opportunity vs locations....the fact that 5 murders he is assumed to have committed were all within 1 sq mile might indicate the general location was important.
If for example the killer is a slaughterhouse man who gets off at midnight in Spitalfield, how much trawling would be needed? 5 minutes....maybe?
Best regards Jason
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Even if they did dosent mean they went and killed him, why not catch him, turn him in or something ?
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Originally posted by Daveshredder View PostNo way if people get away with it now, during an age of cctv when just about every move we make is watched. I really cant see how .
Ive heard it said that every second man in victorian london fit the description. And what about the theory that he sliped into the midsts of butchers who trundled the streets every morning covered with blood.
He wasnt just out on the streets in the morning. The killer was trawling around Whitechapel much of the night.
Depending on his home circumstances, I believe it likely that someone close to JtR had suspiscions of him.
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Guest repliedSome might say he changed his preferred weapon and lived comfortably until caught in those acts. Some might say they ended cause he felt he was going crazy and went swimming with rocks in his pockets. Some might say he was bound and secure in a straight jacket until his natural death. Some might say he went to America and killed women there. Some might say he died from Venereal Disease.
Why he stopped cant be answered....especially without knowledge of when he started, and who his last kill was.
Best regards all.
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In the sence that from what I understand people who kill do it because they have a strong impulse to, If I were in that position I dont think I quit just because someone I was with did?
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Originally posted by jason_c View PostA plausible scenario in my opinion.
Ive heard it said that every second man in victorian london fit the description. And what about the theory that he sliped into the midsts of butchers who trundled the streets every morning covered with blood.
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Originally posted by Christine View Post
I think someone did figure it out--there must have been a limited number of men in the relevant geographic area who fit the witness descriptions and people would have been wondering what they were doing the nights of the murders. That doesn't even count the possibility of someone being splattered with blood, or carrying human kidneys around. And he was likely deranged enough not to appear completely normal to people who knew him.
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