homosexual serial killers

[smezenen]

oh i almost forgot lol. I have never heard of a gay murderer killing women, not yet anyway!

Here are 2.
Donald Harvey (i misspelled his name in my other post) calimed to have killed 87 men and women. Also, and maybe he didnt belong on my list of serial killers becouse he is only convicted of one murder but Michael Buelow, who is suspected of killing 17 other men and women.

Another interesting fact here about American serial killers, while the number of heterosexual killers vastly outnumbes the homosexual ones, the list of the top ten modern day American serial killers includes 8 homosexuals.

[Daveshredder]

yes i think Jack killed more than C5. I personally include Martha Tabram as an early attack. I havent really thought about the knife issues.

Impossible "IF" I remember right her murder was proved to be commited by a group of young men

I have been reading through this forum and it just struck me that when ever I try to understand why jack did this stuff I always look at it from a modern day perspective. we generaly accept gay people as the norm now, but back then I think it was illegal, just wondering how many other differeces in lifestyle may have effect his reasoning?

oh i almost forgot lol. I have never heard of a gay murderer killing women, not yet anyway!

[sdreid]

I would think probably straight with some adequacy, shyness and/or performance issues.

[smezenen]

Are there any modern homosexual serial killers who have targeted women, not men, as their victims?

Here are 12 convicted serial killers that are all confessed Homosexuals:
Donald Garvey: 37 Murders, John Wayne Gacy: 33 Murders, Patrick Wayne Kearney: 32 Murders, Bruce Davis: 28 murders, Juan Corona: 25 Murders, Jeffrey Dahmer: 17 Murders, Michael C. Buelow suspected of 17 murders convicted of 1, Stephen Kraft: 16 Murders, William Bonin: 14 Murders, and last but certianly not least Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley, and David Owen Brooks were the members of a Texas homosexual torture/murder ring that captured and mutilated 27 young men

The answer to your question in regards to these MODERN day homosexual killers is they killed mostly men and not a single one killed all women. These are modern day killers and attitudes have changed over the years, the moral compass as it where, is pointed almost 180 degrees from where it was in 1888 when it comes to sexual topics. So would a Modern day homosexual serial killer share the same driving blood lust forces as one of Victorian London? Was Jack the exception that proves the rule? Did the Ripper kill men that just didn't get attributed to him because he only felt the need to mutilate the women?

[babybird67]

good point Stan thanks

what's your own feeling on JtR? Straight? Gay? Bi?

[sdreid]

Strangely, in most of the classic unsolved serial killer cases, (New Orleans Axeman, Texarkana Phantom, Cleveland Torso and Zodiac) they killed both male and female. Since they were never caught, we can't say for sure if they were sex killings or what their sexual preference might be.

[babybird67]

thank you

this was my thought..i find it hard to conceive of JtR as a homosexual myself.

[sdreid]

Almost always, sex killers mostly kill the sex that they're attracted to. Ottis Toole might be a rare exception if he can be believed.

[Mr Chumley]

point taken...not sure where the whole gay thing is going though, gonna need some other commentators on this one, not sure how much of a factor it was when you track down the killer..suppose the threat of watch out for the soap in the showers when you get sent down holds little threat :-)

[babybird67]

hi again Mr C

yes i think Jack killed more than C5. I personally include Martha Tabram as an early attack. I havent really thought about the knife issues.

But we are off topic here and someone else will be along with a tongue lashing for the both of us if we persist!

[Mr Chumley]

yes quite right, but i'm not sure he would have given up, he was a driven character, a bit like the gentlemans persona he was trying to adopt...not sure why he suddenly stopped..oh..this sounds familiar.lol...to change topic slightly and ready for that toungue lashing I'm not convinced that Jack starts and finishes with the 5, his method of execution appears to be strangulation. Throat cutting and then mutilation (if it was him and not done afterwards at the mortuary by body part snatchers for the hospitals as has been suggested somewhere). It is possible that he had killed before and after, not neccesarily just in the whitechapel area, he may no longer have had the particular knife or knives with which to carry out the surgical cuts, oh boy.. just spinning around in a circle.

[babybird67]

hi Mr C

i was a detached reader...funnily enough i had just posted a response to him when the threads seemed to disappear!

I was loathe to get involved as there were issues certainly that i didn't feel too comfortable commenting on, re: health issues.

Besides, i thought, the more attention you provide, the more he would repost and repost and repost. If nobody had responded the thread would have died a natural death i think.

[Mr Chumley]

nice....where were you earlier when the GM was taking on all comers

[babybird67]

guess so Mr C...

nothing to do with the knife i have hidden behind my back!

Nahhh...i'm peaceful really...i'd rather give someone a tongue lashing and a taste of biting wit!

[Mr Chumley]

I concur, unfortunately the incidence of injury or death committed by a partner is still high, obviously higher in the UK pre 1920's..i have no idea why this is, some guys feel threatened by intelligent women