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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Haven't seen such a tenuous link in a while, Ike. Bravo.
    You're welcome Sam.

    Quite dizzy over here so far away from my natural habitat ...

    Ike
    Iconoclast
    Soldier of Fortune, Man of Peace, Destroyer of Images, Nice Guy

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
      James Maybrick’s family motto (purchased by him out of typical Victorian middle class vanity) reads tempus omnia revelat (‘time reveals all’, or more cryptically, ‘as time will show').

      And pillars are made out of a number of materials, one of which is, of course, brick.

      James Maybrick was ‘society’s pillar’, but not in the more familiar sense of doctor, clergyman, prime minister, etc.. The cryptic criminal struck again, and it has taken 130 years to decipher the clues.

      As I say, I look forward to the day someone publishes more on these critical insights into the criminal mind which was Jack the Spratt McVitie.
      "Up and down the goddamn town
      policemen try to find me
      But I ain't a chap yet to drown
      In drink or Thames or sea.


      I've no time to tell you how
      I came to be a killer
      But you should know, as time will show
      That I'm society's pillar"


      More indicative of Druitt (a contemporary suspect) than of Maybrick IMHO.
      "It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins twisting facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (as Sherlock Holmes).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Spider View Post
        I am aware as are most on here that the following was quoted by Sir Melville Macnaghton in his memoirs, it being one of the first communications he read concerning the Ripper;


        "I'm not a butcher
        I'm not a Yid
        Nor yet a foreign skipper
        But I'm your own light-hearted friend
        Yours truly
        Jack the Ripper"


        However I'd be interested to know the source for the 'apparent' preceding two verses that appear as follows;

        "Up and down the goddamn town
        policemen try to find me
        But I ain't a chap yet to drown
        In drink or Thames or sea.

        I've no time to tell you how
        I came to be a killer
        But you should know, as time will show
        That I'm society's pillar


        Ay information welcome as I'm unable to find any pointers ;-)
        These verses refer to most theories that were in circulation at the time or shortly thereafter, ..Jewish, butcher, seaman, doctor/barrister..the seaman idea being voiced by no less than HRH.

        Since Druitt is referred to, and we know that theory is first created when he is finally found, all that is in those lines are previously published ideas. If he had added an occupation that was not being openly suggested, then we might have cause to look closer.
        Michael Richards

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
          "Up and down the goddamn town
          policemen try to find me
          But I ain't a chap yet to drown
          In drink or Thames or sea.


          I've no time to tell you how
          I came to be a killer
          But you should know, as time will show
          That I'm society's pillar"


          More indicative of Druitt (a contemporary suspect) than of Maybrick IMHO.
          interesting its indicative of Druitt, MMs favored suspect and this is from him.
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • #35
            Donald McCormick was a peddler of dubious facts.

            In his biography of Ian Fleming, he wrote that John Dee, astrologer, occult philosopher and advisor to Queen Elizabeth I, used to sign himself 007.

            It's complete nonsense, but people liked the idea, and popular ideas pass into common acceptance.

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            • #36
              Hello Simon,

              No doubt someone will one day think these lyrics, written 80 years after the murders, sung by Mannfred Mann, will also have "originally" been based on the WM 1888... Like McCormick stuff.

              (Its not, it's about a run down hostel in San Francisco).


              My name is Jack, and I live in the back,
              Of the Greta Garbo home
              With friends I will remember, wherever I may roam

              My name is Jack, I live in the back
              Of the Greta Garbo home for wayward boys and girls

              Now here's ol' Fred with his hands on his head
              'Cause he thinks he's heard the bomb
              And here comes Super Spade
              Who really gets it on

              And my name's Jack, I live in the back
              Of the Greta Garbo home for wayward boys and girls

              There is Dave with the plates he made
              For the food that Diggers found
              Ruth is always praying, and never makes a sound
              It's lots of fun and I love to run
              Up and down the stairs
              I make as much noise as I want, and no one even cares!

              And my name's Jack, we live in the back
              Of the Greta Garbo home for wayward boys and girls

              There's Carl over there with his funny hair
              He's never sad at all
              And when I grow up I want to run as fast as my friend Paul
              There's the prettiest girl in the whole wide world
              And her name is Melody Mend
              And here comes Mom with brother Tom
              Who's probably my best friend

              And my name's Jack, I live in the back
              Of the Greta Garbo home for wayward boys and girls
              (We all know Jack, we live in the back
              Of the Greta Garbo home for wayward boys and girls)


              Best regards


              Phil
              Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


              Justice for the 96 = achieved
              Accountability? ....

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