Could be the 'real final solution'....?

[packers stem]

Yes, because signing a piece of art and signing a crime scene are much of a muchness.

Habit??

[Harry D]

Hi Harry
I'm pretty sure he wasn't in a good state of mind at the time.
Artists do sign their work....often just sketches that were never meant to be seen by anyone else.Most Sickert sketches were signed

Yes, because signing a piece of art and signing a crime scene are much of a muchness.

[packers stem]

Sorry Packers, don't know what you are talking about. I was responding to a post from GUT.

C4

Apologies C4
I should have checked...
What I've said though just applies to the idea that the signature might be there by fluke and nothing to do with the ripper. Idea would be ridiculous ..sort of 'devils advocate' rubbish that doesn't add anything serious and doesn't help anyone

[curious4]

Hi C4
Please tell me you would not seriously suggest Sickert's door from his home had been used for the partition??
If anyone starts trying to go down that route then it will just prove that ripperology is finished as a serious debate.
I think the whole kosminsky idea has always been ridiculous but if I saw kosminsky written on the wall I'd have posted the same and thought Ok,bizarre but the proofs there...

Sorry Packers, don't know what you are talking about. I was responding to a post from GUT.

C4

[packers stem]

I could see the "pictures" that Packer's was speaking of, but that "signature" looks nothing like SICKERT to me.

Hi Brenda
Try viewing it on different devices... Smaller looks better.it's never going to be clear on a mobile phone shot from a photo in a book but you can clearly see the S and the T.Sickert's K is very distinctive like a v with a tail off it...you can see the tops of the 'v'
I'm 100% convinced now but I appreciate others will take lab tests on the original to convince them

[packers stem]

Why would a serial killer be stupid enough to leave his signature at a crime scene?

Hi Harry
I'm pretty sure he wasn't in a good state of mind at the time.
Artists do sign their work....often just sketches that were never meant to be seen by anyone else.Most Sickert sketches were signed

[packers stem]

True. Apparently some of Van Gogh's paintings were used to build chicken coops.

C4

Hi C4
Please tell me you would not seriously suggest Sickert's door from his home had been used for the partition??
If anyone starts trying to go down that route then it will just prove that ripperology is finished as a serious debate.
I think the whole kosminsky idea has always been ridiculous but if I saw kosminsky written on the wall I'd have posted the same and thought Ok,bizarre but the proofs there...

[packers stem]

Sickert was in France during the killing spree and that is one of the reasons Sickert could not have committed the murders.

Another reason is that there is no evidence at all and you need multiple evidence.

Poe wrote The murders in Rue Morgue. Was he the killer? (No, he was dead by then).

(The newspapers in 1888 referred to this book when they discussed the Whitechapel murders.)

Pierre
Unless Sickert was incarcerated in France and there is documented official evidence to suggest this to be the case at that time,and I don't believe that was the case he was free to be wherever he wanted to be so that's irrelevant... There were ferries.
You say there you need multiple evidence and that there is no evidence at all but what I've pointed out could be complete damning incontrovertible evidence if proven under laboratory conditions.If it turns out to be confirmed and I do believe now it's only a matter of time then it will be proven that he'd been in that room,no room for maneuver there I'm afraid. Wouldn't prove he worked alone but would be pretty much conclusive...
Cant imagine anyone ignoring it being taken seriously

[curious4]

Then there are others that look like the product of chicken coops...

Very good :-D!

[Pierre]

FWIW, Sickert was a bit of a loon, who was apparently what we'd call a "hoarder" today, and who lived to be 82. Hoarders probably have a form of OCD. It's hard to imagine that someone who lived that long with that kind of disorder would be the Ripper because he wouldn't

1. just stop

and

2. keep it a secret his whole life.

I've known several OCD people, and they tend to blurt things. I don't know why, but it tends to be part of the disorder. Maybe because they have a problem with impulse control.

Now, OCD and a problem with impulse control, as well as hoarding would probably be great Ripper traits, especially for one's novel, but you can't use "those disorders are not incompatible with being the Ripper" as evidence. We don't know the Ripper had those problems, and they aren't terribly uncommon.

Serial killers do sometimes stop without beeing dead/arrested/admitted to asylums etc and they also tend to have periods when they donīt kill.

Pierre

[Pierre]

Sickert is not Jack the Ripper.

Sickert was in France during the killing spree and that is one of the reasons Sickert could not have committed the murders.

Another reason is that there is no evidence at all and you need multiple evidence.

Poe wrote The murders in Rue Morgue. Was he the killer? (No, he was dead by then).

(The newspapers in 1888 referred to this book when they discussed the Whitechapel murders.)

[Wickerman]

True. Apparently some of Van Gogh's paintings were used to build chicken coops.

C4

Then there are others that look like the product of chicken coops...

[curious4]

I looked at the wall last nigh (in the hospital) and saw Van Gogh slashing Monte's throat with Sickert's pallet knife, (now I was under some pretty heavy drugs at the time) and you know that made more sense than Packers insistance that something, most here aren't seeing, in his photos being the solution.

Sorry to hear you were at the hospital. Hope all is ok with you now. Can sympathise having planned a full weekend with the grandkids and having to cancel the lot :-(.

Best wishes
C4

[RivkahChaya]

Hi,,
For the record, I do not believe any signature is in Kelly's room. left by anyone, and also Sickert is way down on my list as being anything else then a artist.
Regards Richard.

FWIW, Sickert was a bit of a loon, who was apparently what we'd call a "hoarder" today, and who lived to be 82. Hoarders probably have a form of OCD. It's hard to imagine that someone who lived that long with that kind of disorder would be the Ripper because he wouldn't

1. just stop

and

2. keep it a secret his whole life.

I've known several OCD people, and they tend to blurt things. I don't know why, but it tends to be part of the disorder. Maybe because they have a problem with impulse control.

Now, OCD and a problem with impulse control, as well as hoarding would probably be great Ripper traits, especially for one's novel, but you can't use "those disorders are not incompatible with being the Ripper" as evidence. We don't know the Ripper had those problems, and they aren't terribly uncommon.

[curious4]

No, Mary Jane wasn't a bag-lady :-)